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    Default First names include ROBBINS; surname of TUSON

    I was looking for an Arthur TUSON born in Kent on FreeBMD and came across the following births:
    Dec 1854 William Henry Robbins Tuson
    June 1856 Mary Ann Robbins Tuson
    June 1857 Janet Robbins Tuson
    Sep 1858 Catherine Robbins Tuson
    Dec 1859 Vincent Robbins Tuson
    Sep 1861 Eliza Robbins Tuson

    Getting distracted from my original search I thought I'd try to find the family on the 1861 and 1871 censuses on findmypast. They aren't there under Tuson or any of its variants. So I tried looking for Vincent (no surname), born 1857 - 1861, couldn't find anything that looked a possibility. Tried the same trick with the other first names without any joy.

    Would someone have a look on A****** for me please?
    many thanks
    David

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    There is a William Henry Tuson (no Robbins in the name) born around 1846 on 1861 census in Stepney, London, living with parents James and Eliza, and brother James.

    Whereabouts in the country are we looking? If I look at the birthdate, there are a couple of William Tusons in Lancashire, though none of the other names match up.

    Looking at Mary Anne I can't see any obvious matches, though again, a couple of possibles in Lancashire - but not with her siblings

    If you can provide some place names we might be able to shed some more light

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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrymivvy View Post
    There is a William Henry Tuson (no Robbins in the name) born around 1846 on 1861 census in Stepney, London, living with parents James and Eliza, and brother James.

    Whereabouts in the country are we looking? If I look at the birthdate, there are a couple of William Tusons in Lancashire, though none of the other names match up.

    Looking at Mary Anne I can't see any obvious matches, though again, a couple of possibles in Lancashire - but not with her siblings

    If you can provide some place names we might be able to shed some more light
    Sorry, all born in the DOVER (Kent) registration district

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    They are on 1861 listed as Robbins..parents Jacob and Eliza Robbins. living Dover kent.
    1871 listed as Robins, mothers age has been mistranscribed, correct on original

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    Quote Originally Posted by valg View Post
    They are on 1861 listed as Robbins..parents Jacob and Eliza Robbins. living Dover kent.
    1871 listed as Robins, mothers age has been mistranscribed, correct on original
    Found some of the baptisms for their children. The name Tuson doesn't appear though

    Name: William Henry Robbins
    Baptism/Christening Date: 26 Nov 1854 St. James' , Dover, Kent, England
    Father's Name: Jacob Robbins
    Mother's Name: Eliza Robbins
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I08025-9 Source Film Number: 1836138 Reference Number: page 2 #11 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

    Name: Mary Ann Robbins
    Baptism/Christening Date: 11 May 1856 St. James' , Dover, Kent, England
    Father's Name: Jacob Robbins
    Mother's Name: Eliza Robbins
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I08025-9 Source Film Number: 1836138 Reference Number: page 8 #62 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

    Name: Katharine Robins
    Baptism/Christening Date: 15 Sep 1858 St. James' , Dover, Kent, England
    Father's Name: Jacob Robins
    Mother's Name: Eliza Robins
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I08025-9 Source Film Number: 1836138 Reference Number: Page 24 #188 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

    Name: Vincent Robins
    Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Feb 1860 St. James' , Dover, Kent, England
    Father's Name: Jacob Robins
    Mother's Name: Eliza Robins
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I08025-9 Source Film Number: 1836138 Reference Number: Page 32 #255 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

    Name: Eliza Robins
    Baptism/Christening Date: 03 Nov 1861 St. James' , Dover, Kent, England
    Father's Name: Jacob Robins
    Mother's Name: Eliza Robins
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I08025-9 Source Film Number: 1836138 Reference Number: Page 45 #360 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

    Couldn't find the baptism for Janet Robbins Tuson June 1857

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrysfamily View Post
    Found some of the baptisms for their children. The name Tuson doesn't appear though

    Name: William Henry Robbins
    Baptism/Christening Date: 26 Nov 1854 St. James' , Dover, Kent, England
    Father's Name: Jacob Robbins
    Mother's Name: Eliza Robbins
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I08025-9 Source Film Number: 1836138 Reference Number: page 2 #11 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

    Name: Mary Ann Robbins
    Baptism/Christening Date: 11 May 1856 St. James' , Dover, Kent, England
    Father's Name: Jacob Robbins
    Mother's Name: Eliza Robbins
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I08025-9 Source Film Number: 1836138 Reference Number: page 8 #62 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

    Name: Katharine Robins
    Baptism/Christening Date: 15 Sep 1858 St. James' , Dover, Kent, England
    Father's Name: Jacob Robins
    Mother's Name: Eliza Robins
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I08025-9 Source Film Number: 1836138 Reference Number: Page 24 #188 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

    Name: Vincent Robins
    Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Feb 1860 St. James' , Dover, Kent, England
    Father's Name: Jacob Robins
    Mother's Name: Eliza Robins
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I08025-9 Source Film Number: 1836138 Reference Number: Page 32 #255 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

    Name: Eliza Robins
    Baptism/Christening Date: 03 Nov 1861 St. James' , Dover, Kent, England
    Father's Name: Jacob Robins
    Mother's Name: Eliza Robins
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I08025-9 Source Film Number: 1836138 Reference Number: Page 45 #360 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

    Couldn't find the baptism for Janet Robbins Tuson June 1857
    No wonder I couldn't find them under TUSON - now I wonder how FreeBMD came up with the surname Tuson for each of them when the search criteria I used was surname = Tuson, County = Kent; date range = 1840 - 1880

    Really appreciate your help everyone, many thanks
    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Tuson View Post
    No wonder I couldn't find them under TUSON - now I wonder how FreeBMD came up with the surname Tuson for each of them when the search criteria I used was surname = Tuson, County = Kent; date range = 1840 - 1880

    Really appreciate your help everyone, many thanks
    David
    Having looked at the original images FreeBMD are correct with the entries. They have entered them as is. The original defiantly says TUSON.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrysfamily View Post
    Having looked at the original images FreeBMD are correct with the entries. They have entered them as is. The original defiantly says TUSON.
    Oh what a sticky web we weave.

    Edmund Tuson b 1811 Middlesex ? married Elisa Pattison b 1821 Kent in 1840 Kent (BMD)
    Daughter Harriette Eliza Tuson b 1840 Kent (BMD)

    On 1841 Census Dover Kent

    On 1851 Census Dover Kent Eliza Tuson is with her mother Mercy Pattison and children Harriette Eliza b 1840 and Mercy Tuson b 1850 France. No Edmund Tuson he Turns up on the Fed Census 1850 America.

    Census 1861 Eliza Turns up as the wife of Jacob Robbins although I cant find a Marriage for them so I expect they are not Married and that is why when she registers all the other children she has with Jacob she names them Robbins Tuson.
    1861 Census children
    Mercy 11
    William 6
    Mary A 5
    Jennett 4
    Katharine 3
    Vincent 1
    Jacob is a publican, they live at 1 York Terrace at "The Marquise of Anglesea"

    1871 Census they are at 8 New Street public House Jacob is a Publican and Tea Dealer they have children
    William 16
    Janet 14
    Catherine 13
    Vincent 11

    1881 Census they are at 14 Ovenden Street Jacob is a Tea Dealer children
    William 27
    Catherine 22
    and a Grand daughter Eliza Robbins are with them.

    Jacob Robbins dies 1881

    Edmund Tuson turns up on the 1881 Census as a Patient at St George Hospitol, Hanover Square Belgravia.
    he also dies in 1881.

    Harriette when to America at some time and Married and had 12 children.
    or am I telling stories again in La La Land

    Regards Sandy

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    Good find Sandy The parents not being married would certainly explain them being registered Robbins Tuson.

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    Groom's Name: Edmund Tuson Widowed
    Bride's Name: Eliza Pattison Single
    Marriage Date: 06 Jun 1840 Dover, Kent, England
    Groom's Father's Name: William Tuson
    Bride's Father's Name: Henry Pattison
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01138-0 Source Film Number: 1836104 Reference Number: p 37 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

    Name: Harriet Tuson
    Baptism/Christening Date: 17 Jan 1841 Saint James The Apostle, Dover, Kent, England
    Birth Date: 25 Dec 1841 (Think that should be 1840?)
    Father's Name: Edmund Tuson
    Mother's Name: Eliza
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03655-1 Source Film Number: 355636 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

    Name: Henry Parker Tuson
    Baptism/Christening Date: 28 Sep 1845 Saint Mary The Virgin, Dover, Kent, England
    Birth Date: 03 Sep 1845
    Father's Name: Edmund Tuson
    Mother's Name: Eliza
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03656-3 Source Film Number: 355633 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

    Groom's Name: Andrew Mcdougall Single
    Bride's Name: Harriet Eliza Tuson Single
    Marriage Date: 03 Mar 1857 Dover, Kent, England
    Groom's Father's Name: John Mcdougall
    Bride's Father's Name: Edmund Tuson
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01138-0 Source Film Number: 1836104 Reference Number: p 164 Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

    Name: Henry Parker Tuson
    Burial Date: 29 Dec 1847 Kent, England
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I05022-4 Source Film Number: 1836138 Reference Number: page 117 Collection: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991

    Name: Eliza Pattison
    Baptism/Christening Date: 02 Jul 1820 Saint James The Apostle, Dover, Kent, England
    Father's Name: Henry Pattison
    Mother's Name: Mercy
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03655-1 Source Film Number: 355636 Collection: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991

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