I can track my grandfather, Edward Hope, back to the 1891 census, from there however he seems to disappear. There is a possibility that he might have been born with the surname Owen,and there is an Edward Owen that I can find listed as been born in Gateshead in 1872, which seems to be about right. What I want to know is it possible to track a name change such as this? I'm about to e-mail the registry office in Gatehead to see if they can be of any assistance, but any help anyone on this site can give me would be greatly appreciated.
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Thread: Name Change
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17-11-2010, 2:02 PM #1omegaguyGuest
Name Change
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17-11-2010, 2:34 PM #2GeoffersGuest
There remains no requirement to go through a legal process to change name; any change of name may come about just through use.
Name changes sometimes occur as a result of an illegitimate birth either in the generation in question, or earlier. These can sometimes be tracked through census, records of marriage and birth and parish registers. Is there any trace of a marriage of Edward OWEN's parents, possibly after Edwards birth?
Occasionally there are officially recorded name changes, a good place to look for these is The London Gazette - though with surnames such as OWEN and HOPE, I think it may take quite a while to identify such an entry.
This TNA research guide deals with changes of name.
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17-11-2010, 3:17 PM #3
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What does it say on Edward Hope's marriage certificate?
Don't forget the possibility that his name may have changed because of his mother's remarriage.
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19-11-2010, 12:40 PM #4omegaguyGuest
I Haven't been at this for long so I don't have any his marriage certificate as of yet. As to his mother's remarriage, so far I haven't been able to find any evidence of that. I do have access to Ancestry .com through a local library, so going to do some more investigation this morning.
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19-11-2010, 10:17 PM #5omegaguyGuest
After doing some more research this, this is what I’ve turned up. I have not been able to find the hope family in the 1881 census; or the Owen family in the 1891. However, the similarity in Christian names and ages between the two, are remarkable. Listed below are the members of the two Families.
1881 Census
Thomas Owen, father aged 50
Priscilla Owen, mother aged 42
Joseph Owen, Son aged 13
Francis A Owen Daughter aged 10
Edward Owen Son aged 8
Thomas William son aged 4
Thomas Son aged 15
Hannah Owen Aged o
1891 Census
Thomas Owen Not listed
Hannah Hope Widow Head
Joseph Hope son aged 24
Francis A Owen Daughter Not listed
Edward Hope son aged 18
Thomas Son aged 15
Hannah Owen Aged 9
As You can see the similarities are more than just coincidental. Besides that I can find no marriage between a Thomas Own and someone with the Christian name Priscilla, but did find a listing on freebmd in 1869 with the names Hannah Milburn and Thomas Owen, not absolute proof but adds even more to the list of coincidences. At present have not been able to track down the date of Thomas Owen’s death, or what happened to Frances; could have been out, working away, dead or married, I suppose, but haven’t been able to turn up any proof on the last two. Had hoped to hear back from someone I made contact with in the Gateshead registry office, but no luck so far. Any help would be greatly appreciated.Last edited by omegaguy; 19-11-2010 at 10:18 PM. Reason: formatting
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19-11-2010, 10:51 PM #6Lizzy9Guest
1871, Heworth, Durham. RG10 Piece 5048 Folio 39 Page 28 (Crown copyright, in car of TNA)
Thomas Hope 30
Pricilla Hannah Hope 30
John Hope 12
Pricilla Hope 10
Joseph Hope 3
Frances Ann Hope 8 Months
In 1861 Priscilla is Priscilla Bell.
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19-11-2010, 10:55 PM #7Lizzy9Guest
1861, Eccleston, Lancs. RG9 Piece 2750 Folio 44 Page 10 (Crown copyright, in care of TNA)
Robert Bell 27
Priscilla Bell 22 Durham
John Bell 3 Durham
Priscilla Bell 9 MO Lanca
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19-11-2010, 11:00 PM #8Lizzy9Guest
Marriages Dec 1867, Newcastle on Tyne, 10b/73. Thomas Chapman Owen also indexed Priscella Hannah Bell (written as spelt in index)
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19-11-2010, 11:29 PM #9Lizzy9Guest
I am posting the 1891 as it's not quite as listed by omegaguy. RG12 Piece 4172 Folio 37 Page 25 (Crown copyright, in care of TNA) All youngsters entered as children of Hannah.
Hannah Hope 50
Joseph Hope 24
Edward Hope 18
Elizabeth Hope 16
Thomas Hope 15
Hannah Hope 9
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19-11-2010, 11:37 PM #10Lizzy9Guest
And a complete 1881 as indexed. RG11 Piece 5039 Folio 22 Page 37 (Crown copyright, in care of TNA)
Thomas Owen 40
Priscilla Owen 42
John Bell 22
Priscilla H. Bell 20
Joseph Owen 13
Francis A. Owen 10
Edward Owen 8
Elizabeth Jane Owen 5
Thomas William Owen 4
Hannah Owen 2 months
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