Bethnal Green Union School

[DRosebud]

What I can not get my head around is why I can not find any member of this family in the 1891 Census. Important information given this was one of Staceyleigh's original queries.

>Sarah Jane is at her brother's home in 1902 and no sign of her children.

>Frederick Stanley Dawdry possibly died early on or ? (no death index)

>Sarah's husband, Frederick Walter Dawdry died? between 1899 (year of Nellie's baptism nee Ellen Rhoda) and 1901 Census. (no record found)

>Sarah Jane Dawdry dies in 1902 (death index found)

>Albert admitted to Bethnal Green Union Workhouse either after his mother's death or would it have been possible after father's death that Nellie and Albert went to the workhouse? Albert asks after his sister...

Looking for the death index for Frederick Walter Dawdry between 1899 and 1901.

Just thinking out loud on paper.

Deborah

[AdeleE]

Here they are in 1891, indexed as Dawary on Ancestry:

Frederick W Dawdry, head, mar, 36, grocer & cheesemonger, b. Norfolk
Sarah J Dawdry, wife, mar, 34, b. Bethnal Green
(blank) Dawdry, son, 3 weeks, b. Forest Gate, Essex

153 Odessa Rd
Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish:St Saviour
Town: West Ham
County: Essex
Registration district: West Ham
RG12; Piece: 1335; Folio 45; Page 28

Adele

[AdeleE]

This death registration fits his age:

Name: Frederick Dawdry
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Year of Registration: 1895
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 40
District: Billericay
County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 300

but doesn't fit with daughter Rhoda's date of birth of 19 Aug 1896, unless Frederick is not the biological father. Do baptisms indicate if a father is deceased? I haven't noticed that written on any baptisms yet.

Adele

Adele

[AdeleE]

>Frederick Stanley Dawdry possibly died early on or ? (no death index)

Here's little Frederick Stanley, with a consistent but different spelling:

Birth

Name: Frederick Stanley Dawbry
Year: 1887
Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 96

Death

Name: Frederick Stanley Dawbry
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Year: 1888
Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 1
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 44

Adele

[DRosebud]

Adele,

You are fabulous! |

I was thinking Frederick Stanley was perhaps possibly sickly given his was the only baptism that happened soon after birth compared to his siblings.

Your right, Frederick Walter's death regis does NOT fit with birth of Ellen and I was basing his possible death on her baptismal year. I do know I have seen 'father deceased' on many Scottish certificates but I do not think I have seen on a British certificate.

Never saw 'Dawary' on Ancestry...and with little newborn Albert.

Well done!

Deborah

[AdeleE]

I've found son Albert already in the Bethnal Green Union School by the time of the 1901 census, not a surprise as he wasn't with his mother:

Name: Albert Dawtrey
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Bethnal Green (everyone on page is marked born Bethnal Green)
ED, institution, or vessel: Bethnal Green Union Schools
Civil parish: Leyton
Ecclesiastical parish: Leytonstone All Saints
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Perhaps Sarah's brother wouldn't accept her children into his household, and Sarah had nowhere else to go.

Adele

[AdeleE]

and Ellen Rhoda in the Bethnal Green Infirmary in 1901:

Name: Rhoda Dawdrey
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Pauper Patient (Pauper)
Gender: Female
Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England

ED, institution, or vessel: Bethnal Green Infirmary
Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
RG13; Piece: 296; Folio: 145; Page: 9

So that's all of them. A sad time in their lives....

Adele

[DRosebud]

So pleased you found them both...but you are right of course so very little and Albert for sure was there until sent to Canada in 1905 as a British Home Child. I understand from reading about workhouses that they separated the boys and girls so he won't see his sister except perhaps chapel. I wonder if they ever saw their mother again after being admitted. Perhaps she was ill and no choice as you say.

Deborah

PS: Oh, I see they would not see each other as in two different places..

[DRosebud]

Staceyleigh,

As Adele has stated, you now have records of Albert's immediate family members...one last record for you:

1911 Census Household Transcript
(RG14PN1077 RG78PN36 RD11 SD3 ED4 SN195)
Address: 205 Navarino Mansions Hackney NE
Enumeration District: 4
County: London Parish: St John at Hackney

Lake, William Head Married 66 Pensioner Police Chelmsford, Essex
Lake, Emma wife Married 55 b London, Bethnal Green married 26 years
Lake, Edith Emma daughter single 25 Vellum sewer stationary (worker) b Bethnal Green
Lake, Jessie Maud daughter single 21 Silk tramings upholsters (worker) b Bethnal Green
Lake, Constance daughter single 20 Clerk stationary (worker) b Bethnal Green
Dawdry, Ellen Rhoda niece single 14 blouse work b Bethnal Green

Deborah

[Stacyleigh]

WOW- you guys are INCREDIBLE! Thank you SO much! I have just sent off for a bunch of birth and death certificates, thanks to your information, and will keep pulling those threads from there!

Again, your help is muchly appreciated!