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    MaryFrances
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    Default Cannot find Helena's death.

    Please can someone help? Helena Sarah F. Fitzgibbons (sometimes spelt with a capital G) born Dec.q. 1900. Parents died 1911 and 1912 in Billericay and elder brother, Patrick John, was seemingly sent to live with relatives. Family lore has it that Helena died very young, possibly before her parents, but I just cannot find her death.

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    v.wells
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    Have you found them on the 1901 or 1911 census? Parents names would help.

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    Could this be her death


    September 1914

    Fitzgibbons Ellen age 13 Poplar Volume 1c Page 593

    regards,

    maggie

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    v.wells
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    They are on the 1911 living at 110 and 112 Fanshawe Ave, Barking, Romford Essex
    Patrick Fitzgibbons Head age 35 Grommet maker b Shadwell, London E.
    Ellen Wife married 13 yrs age 35 b St. George E. London
    Patrick son age 12 b Poplar London E
    Ellen age 10 b Upton Park, Essex
    Emma age 6 b Stepney, London E
    John age 11 mos b Barking Essex
    Martha White Servant.

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    v.wells
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    Found on 1901 census RG13/1597/9/10

    Patrick
    Ellen L
    Patrick J.
    Helena S. F b Upton Park, Essex 1900 (5 mos)

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    gasser
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    This could be young Helena ... listed as Ellen.
    This seems to be the family in the 1911 census in Romford, Essex
    Patrick b. 1875
    Ellen b. 1876
    Patrick b. 1899
    ELLEN b. 1901

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    gasser
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    v.wells beat me to it ........ well done!

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    MaryFrances
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    Oh my word, everyone, Thank you, V.Wells, Maggie and gasser. This has opened up a whole new mystery. The story we knew was that the parents died when Patrick junior was young (how young?) and that he went to live with relatives, also that his sister,(who after research we thought to be Helena) died very young but Patrick junior was reluctant to talk about his early life. Gasser, do I owe you for the 1911 lookup? We need to do some rethinking here. But, thank you all very much.

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    MaryFrances
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    Sorry, V.Wells, do I owe you for the 1911 census? I don't want anyone to be out of pocket for this.

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    gasser
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    Gasser, do I owe you for the 1911 lookup?
    Not a penny......
    I looked for her parents deaths on bmd, found their names, searched 1911 using what information I had on both parents and childrens names , ie a search for a particular name plus name of additional member of household and by process of elimination came up with the result!
    best wishes

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