The elusive henry's daughter in law

[Raffaele]

Whilst waiting for the certificate for Melina Pike I have picked up the wife of Henry's son, my Gt grandfather, William Henry Cable Pike.

In 1889 he married Eliza Augusta O'Hennessey in St Saviour, Southwark
According to the family Eliza was born in Ireland and outlived WHC Pike by some 24 years and died in Orpington Kent. (not verified)

It seems Eliza's irish ancestry had more to do with the family view of her name because in the 1881 census I found the following:-

Joseph Hennessey, Head, Male, 34, Labourer, Southwark
Eliza do, wife, 29, , Newington
Eliza do, dau, 10, scholar, do
William do, son, 9, do, do
Alfred do, son, 7, do, do
Henry do, son, 5, ,do
Benjamin do, son, 3, , do
Emily do, dau, 2, , do
Augusta do, dau, 7m,,do

1 Little Pleasant Row between 79 and 81 East Street, Newington
RG11 0549/110/14

I also found a birth registration for a Joseph O'Hennessey 1869.
Eliza would have been 17 when Joseph jnr was born.

Searching all the indexes and census that I can access I cannot find a marriage (perhaps there was not one although they were probably catholic) nor can I find them on previous census returns.

What I have found was difficult because of the different treatment of the O' part of the surname. I have fund Hennessey, Ohennessey and O'Hennessey.

I guess they must have been Irish and probably came over during the potato blight but it would be nice to get them back a bit further.

[Mutley]

Raffaele, I have loads of post it notes on my desk, where I try and search for families for members of the forum. I was just trying to tidy up and throw them away when I came across one of them that has,
Henry Pike born about 1852 in Battersea, living in Wandsworth, son of Eliza.
God knows what it refers to, I am sure I have not typed it on the forum before, it sounds like a census but I don't know which one. I thought I had better post it before I scrap it. It has got to be one of yours, though you probably have found it yourself by now.

On the other side of the note is,
Henery Pike b. 1856 Southwark, living Rotherhithe, son of Ann
Henry R. Pike, b. 1853 Norwood, living Lancs? son of John and Clarinda
Henry Thomas b. 1850 Newington, son of Samuel Witheral Pike

Now I have posted them, even though they may be of no use, my conscience is clear and I can bin 'em.

[Kerrywood]

Searching all the indexes and census that I can access I cannot find a marriage (perhaps there was not one although they were probably catholic) nor can I find them on previous census returns

1871
RG10-617 folio 160 page 72
4 Blewitt Street, St Mary Newington
Joseph HENNESSEY Hd M 23 Labourer St Georges Surrey
Eliza HENNESSEY Wife M 20 Newington
Joseph HENNESSEY Son Unm 2 Newington
Eliza HENNESSEY Daur Unm 5 mo Newington
John HARRISON Lodger M 74 Painter Southwark
Rebecca HARRISON Wife M 64 Southwark

At this date, the marriage (if there was one) should have been registered, regardless of religious denomination.

Is this any use?

Marriages
Dec Qtr 1868
ABRAMS Samuel Newington 1d 290
COE Eliza Tucker Newington 1d 290
HENESSY Joseph Peter Newington 1d 290

Kerrywood

[Kerrywood]

1861 census
RG9-341 folio 97 page 21
10 Lower Doctor Street, Walworth, Newington
Peter P. Hare? O'HENNESSY Head Widower 51 Parliamentary Reporter Ireland Ennis Co. Clare
Augusta L? O'HENNESSY Daur 14 Scholar Middlesex London
William J. O'HENNESSY Son 12 Scholar Surrey Blackfriars Rd
Jos. P. Peter O'HENNESSY Son 10 Scholar Surrey Blackfriars Rd
Josephine M. O'HENNESSY Daur 9 Scholar Surrey Kennington
Mary NALL Servant Mar 30 House Servant Wales

A second opinion on the transcript would be useful - anyone? Ancestry has them all under HENNESSY with O as a middle initial

Kerrywood

[Kerrywood]

1851 census
HO107-1582 [folio & page illegible] Schedule 114
5 Gloster Place (West), Camberwell, Surrey
Peter O'HENNESSEY Head Widr 40 Law Reporter Ireland Ennis
Augusta S. O'HENNESSEY Daug U 8 Scholar Middlesex London
William W. O'HENNESSEY Son U 6 Scholar Middlesex London
Patrick M. O'HENNESSEY Son U 4 Scholar Middlesex London
Mary J. O'HENNESSEY Daug 2 Middlesex London
Mary CRAWFORD Serv Wid 45 House Servant Exeter

Still no wife ...

Kerrywood

[KatieB]

TODD, John M 55 1786 Middlesex
TODD, Mary F 50 1791 Middlesex
ROSE, Sarah F 52 1789 Middlesex
BERTUZZI, John G M 50 1791
MARTINDALE, Thomas M 40 1801 Middlesex
O HENNESSY, Peter H M 30 1811 Ireland
SIMMONDS, Caroline F 15 1826 Middlesex

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
672 Book/Folio:
4/23 Page:
40

Registration District:
St Giles in the Fields & St George Bloomsbury Sub District:
St George Bloomsbury EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St George Bloomsbury Municipal Borough:
Finsbury Address:
Bury Street, St George Bloomsbury, Finsbury County:
Middlesex

I can't read the occupation sorry but it may be crime something

[Raffaele]

Mutley - Thanks but those are about Henry and we are waiting for his daughters birth cert to move on.

Finbar - Not sure about that, may not be one of mine but odd the name.

Kerrywood - What can I say. I guess thanks is the word but it does not seem adequate. I guess I have to find out how to research Ireland now. Must go an find where Ennis is.

Thanks all

[Astoria]

https://home.pacbell.net/nymets11/genuki/CLA/Ennis/

[Raffaele]

Thanks also to KatieB - I would guess crime reporter
and to Astoria - quick as ever.

Looks like he married just after the census and she died just before the next.
I tried FreeBMD and no luck on the marriage.

I wonder which newspaper he worked for, crime then law then political reporter. Looks like he could have been a career journalist.

[Kerrywood]

HO107 Piece:
672 Book/Folio:
4/23 Page:
40
...

I can't read the occupation sorry but it may be crime something

Could it be Connected with ... [something]?

He's a law/parliamentary reporter in later census, if that helps anyone to guess. This is 1841, by the way

Raffaele, could this be the death of Peter's wife and a daughter (adjacent pages in the register)? Just a guess

Death in childbirth?

Deaths
Dec Qtr 1850
O'HENNESSY Charlotte Camberwell 4 54
O'HENNESSY Charlotte Camberwell 4 55


Kerrywood