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    Bonnielynn, thank you so much for finding that. I am still waiting for the death certificate to arrive. It should have been dispatched April 15 from NZ.

    David, if there is a headstone, send me a PM & I'll send you my email address so you can send a photo if you have one. Otherwise, I assume you will just copy the MI. Thanks very much to all for helping out with this.

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    Hi Elaine

    When I go to Hamilton (probably early May) I'll take my camera and send a picture of headstone (if it is there of course). Do you want me to let you know the result before you PM your email address?

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    David,
    Check your PM's.

    You might as well let everyone know the results also.

    I received the Death cert. from NZ. Of course, the problem with a death cert. is that the person who really knows the answers to the questions is ... err... dead !

    Whoever supplied the information didn't know the name or surname of the decease's father, but did state that the name of his mother was "Hilda McClure", maiden name "Carr" & that the profession of the father was "Doctor of Medicine". They also said he was married in Bristol, England at age 21, but nothing further about the wife/widow, & that he was born in London, England and had been in NZ 34 years.

    This is close enough for me to be certain that I have the correct person. Actual facts - he was born in Woodstock District of Oxfordshire & his mother was named Annie Helene Carr & he married in Weston-super-Mare, Somerset at age 21.

    I have 1911 passenger list record, so it is good to know that is correct. [1945 - 34 = 1911]

    The next mystery is - Did he live with his wife from Aug 1906 to 1911 [without issue !] or did he leave her sooner ? Can find no trace of him in W-s-M directories, but will look again when there next year.

    Thanks to all for your help.

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    Unhappy Visited the cemetery

    My wife and i went to the Hamilton East cemetery today armed with the map,plot details, camera, paper and pen (in case the headstone was badly faded). Unfortunately we couldn't find a headstone in the specified location - just bare grass between two other graves.
    We walked up and down all the rows (just in case we couldn't count properly) without success - sorry. The garden was marked DD and we were in row K and the bare plot was the 17th from the end.
    I'm sure the space was the right plot as many of the surrounding headstones had burials from the 1940s.
    I did however take a couple of photos of where the plot is and will email them to you tomorrow.
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    Thanks David. Not surprised that no one ponied up for a marker. He was a farm labourer [i.e. no money, perhaps], did a runner as a husband, never remarried & seemed an all around waste of space ! He had 1 brother [a Doctor] still living in England who could have afforded it, but may not have known, 2 brothers in Canada who may or not have been still living & a nephew & great nephew in England [both doctors] who probably never met him.

    I'll be content with photo of NZ grass.

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    Electoral Roll search shows Septimus listed twice in 1919. Once in Franklin, Auckland Electorate ( McClure, Septimus, Brookby, Farmhand), also registered 1919 in Raglan, Waikato electorate (McClure, Septimus, c/0 Taupo, Pukekawa PO, farmhand). No other McClures at either location. Next record for Septimis McClure is in 1935, Box 26 A, Tirau, farmhand, again no other McClures listed.

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    NZ City Directories 1866-1955 are currently being keyed by volunteers under Ancestry's World Archives Project. The raw images are currently on Ancestry for browsing only, i.e. you can't search by name until the indexers finish. If you don't have a sub but work on the project, you'll get free access when it's complete, but be warned -- there are about 600 names to type per image!

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