William Stewart Orr and Annie Craig from Kilbirnie families and settled in Mt Sterling, North Carolina.
Williams dob is given as 1857 dod as 1889. (He died young - 32 - through a logging accident.)
Conflicting information I've received gives his mother's name as Janet Orr, another Mary Orr.
I'm struggling to get both father and mother for William.
Is there anyone 'doing' Orrs?
Thanks for any assistance.
James.
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16-03-2008, 4:06 PM #1KingetterGuest
William Stewart Orr & Annie Craig - Kilbirnie, Ayrshire
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16-03-2008, 4:25 PM #2MutleyGuest
Hello James,
Please forgive me being a little slow, I think you are saying that William and Annie married and went to Carolina.
William was born in 1857.
Do you know when and where they married and when they emigrated?
There is a William Orr in the 1861 Scotland Census.
Name: William Orr
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relationship: Great Grandchild (Grandchild)
Mother's Name: Elisabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Kilbirnie, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 596
Registration district: Kilbirnie
Civil Parish: Kilbirnie
County: Ayrshire
Address: W Lochridge
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 13
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1861_86
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Calderwood 30
John Mildoun 16
Elisabeth Orr 21
Isabel Orr 25
James Orr 78
Margt Orr 64
Mary Orr 46
Robert Orr 29
William Orr 3
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16-03-2008, 4:31 PM #3MutleyGuest
The confusion is probably because there are two William Orr's in the 1871 Census for Scotland.
Name: William Orr
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relationship: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Kilbirnie, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 596
Registration district: Kilbirnie
Civil Parish: Kilbirnie
County: Ayrshire
Address: West Lochridge
Occupation: Farmer's Nephew
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 5
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1871_111
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Clark 23
Donald McKeachnie 25
Elizabeth Orr 31
Margaret Orr 74
Robert Orr 39
William Orr 13
This is the same family as above in 1861
Cont.....
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16-03-2008, 4:33 PM #4MutleyGuest
The other William
Name: William Orr
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relationship: Son
Mother's Name: Janet
Gender: Male
Where born: Kilbirnie, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 596
Registration district: Kilbirnie
Civil Parish: Kilbirnie
County: Ayrshire
Address: Bank Street
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 6
Household schedule number: 179
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1871_111
Household Members: Name Age
Deborah Orr 18
Helen Orr 37
Janet Orr 56
Jeanie Orr 32
William Orr 13
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16-03-2008, 4:53 PM #5MutleyGuest
The relationships for 1861 may be useful to you.
Elisabeth Orr
abt 1840 Kilbirnie, Ayrshire Daughter James and Margaret
Isabel Orr
abt 1836 Kilbirnie, Ayrshire Daughter James and Margt
James Orr
abt 1783 Kilbirnie, Ayrshire
Head Husband of Margaret
Margt Orr
abt 1797 Largs, Ayrshire
Wife of James
Mary Orr
abt 1815 Kilbirnie, Ayrshire Daughter of James and Margt
Robert Orr
abt 1832 Kilbirnie, Ayrshire
Son of James and Margt
William Orr
abt 1858 Kilbirnie, Ayrshire Son of Elizabeth, Great Grandchild of of James and Margt
Once we know the answers to the questions I asked in the beginning we can then try and take the next step to eliminate one or the other
Lets hope this is your fellow as it gives another generation back.
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16-03-2008, 5:48 PM #6KingetterGuest
Mutley, thanks for all your work. It is my understanding that William and Annie were indeed married but I only assume in Ayrshire. They arrived in N Carolina in the 1880's - can't at this stage narrow it down any closer. This is from a posting on Rootsweb's McEwing Message Board - the particular poster appears to be un-contactable as her email address is nbg. I've been trying to follow up with the more recent poster as well.
I'll get a better look at your other messages now.
Thanks.
Last edited by Jan1954; 16-03-2008 at 10:31 PM. Reason: url to Ancestry
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16-03-2008, 7:18 PM #7MutleyGuest
Hello,
There are 3 William Orr's, the one born abt 1854 to John and Jessie is not yours. I have followed him through to 1901.
I am still working on Janet's son and Elizabeth's son. I have them both in 1861 and 1871. It is the next one that will be interesting!
If I find it.....
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16-03-2008, 7:39 PM #8KingetterGuest
As an 'extra' to this, I had hoped that just maybe this Orr bunch were connected to my own.
My Elizabeth Orr b 5th May, Chr 13th May 1813 Stoneyholm Farm, Kilbirnie, Ayrshire, Scotland
Parents: George Orr (b about 1783) and Elizabeth McEwing (b about 1787). They were married 8th March 1808 Kilbirnie, Ayr, Scotland.
I can see now they are not.
I've actually just set up a forum for Orrs today - its very much incomplete as yet - had hoped it might have become a 'family affair' lol.
James.
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16-03-2008, 8:17 PM #9MutleyGuest
Hello James,
I think I have gone about as far as I can, unfortunately I do not have full access to Scottish Records. I think the marriage of William and Annie is important to give the father's names.
I would hazard a guess that your William is the son of Elizabeth born abt 1840, grandson of James and Margaret. He lives with mum and Uncle Robert in 1871 and then seems to disappear.
I think that William, son of Janet is the one who goes on to marry Esther and is a plumber. William, son of John and Jessie goes on to be a medical practitioner and marries Katherine.
Have not got back to an Elizabeth born 1813.
Good Luck with your forum.
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13-03-2010, 7:41 PM #10wvorrGuest
William Stewart Orr was my Great Grandfather on my mother’s side. William and Annie came to N.C. in 1885 as shown in the census of 1900. (I have a family picture taken in Beith around 1885.) My Grandfather, Barclay L Orr, was born near Asheville in 1886 and was killed in an accident in Asheville around 1914.
After William Stewart died in a logging accident, Annie married Michael Benson.
C1900 -
Name: Annie Benson
Home in 1900: Asheville Ward 4, Buncombe, North Carolina
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: Feb. 1860
Birthplace: Scotland
Relationship to head-of-house: Wife
Spouse's Name: Michael
Race: White
Occupation:
Immigration Year: 1885
Michael Benson 36, 11/62 - works @ saw mill, married 15 yr.
Annie Benson 40, she has had 13 children & 12 are living
John [ORR] Benson 20, 11/79, Scotland - immigrated 1885, RR engineer
Andrew [ORR] Benson 15, 7/85 Scotland - immigrated 1885
Barclay (Orr) Benson 13, 11/86 NC
Malcolm (Orr) Benson 11, 2/89 NC
Minnie Benson 8, 6/91 NC
Annie Benson 7, 4/93 NC
Victor Benson 4, 3/96 NC
George Benson 2, 2/98 NC
ASHEVILLE BOY DIES IN A MANILA HOSPITAL
News Received of the Death of Andrew L. Orr
Andrew L. Orr, who died in Manila, P. I., July 30, 1903,was born in Scotland July 24, 1884, although the greater part of his life has been spent in America. He enlisted in the United States regular cavalry July 1, 1901. Since that time he has been stationed at Fort Meade, S. D. He sailed with Troop L, 13 th cavalry, April 1, 1903 for Manila.
He leaves to mourn his loss a mother, six brothers and one sister. His mother, Mrs. M. M. Benson of Asheville, William W. Orr, John B. Orr, Malcolm G. Orr, ...illegible...of Asheville, James A. Orr of New York, Robert G. Orr of Spenser, N. C, and Barclay L. Orr of Windsor, Colorado.
The following is a clipping from the Manila cable news: “…Another death was reported from First Reserve hospital, but it was not a cholera patient. Private A. L. Orr of 13 th cavalry, who died of pneumonia. His ...?... relative is Mrs. M. M. Benson of Asheville, N. C., U. S. A.
Andrew L Orr, Buried at Arlington National Cemetery
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