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  1. #11
    Mutley
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    I did not see a William with a mother Mary.

    The 1861 household that William is living in with his grandparents James and Margaret has Elizabeth as mother but there is a Mary Orr, her sister age 46. Possible!! It would be nice to see the original.

    In 1871 He is living with Uncle Robert and wife, Elizabeth is there but not Mary?

    Interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutley View Post
    I did not see a William with a mother Mary.

    The 1861 household that William is living in with his grandparents James and Margaret has Elizabeth as mother but there is a Mary Orr, her sister age 46. Possible!! It would be nice to see the original.

    In 1871 He is living with Uncle Robert and wife, Elizabeth is there but not Mary?

    Interesting

    And I wish I had some hair left to tear out

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    Mutley

    Strange!

    There is a marriage in 1858 for a Mary Orr age 20 and a William Stirrat age 24.

    Mary's parents are Robert and Elizabeth

    The minister was John Orr

    One of the witnesses was Margaret Orr

    William Stirrat was a iron miner

    I don't think they are all together on any of the census, due to their ages at time.

    Mary and William are both listed as living at Main Street. Mary is a Domestic servant.


    Anne

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    This is a strange one Anne,

    1841 Scotland Census

    Name: Mary Orr
    Age: 3
    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
    Gender: Female
    Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland

    Civil Parish: Kilbirnie
    County: Ayrshire
    Address: Kilbirnie Bridge St
    Parish Number: 596, ED 8

    Household Members: Name Age
    Elizabeth Orr 35
    Elizabeth Orr 5
    Margaret Orr 1
    Mary Orr 3
    Robert Orr 65
    Robert Orr 35


    1851 Scotland Census

    Name: Mary Orr
    Age: 14
    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
    Relationship: Daughter
    Father's Name: Robert
    Mother's Name: Elizabeth
    Gender: Female
    Where born: Kilbirnie, Ayrshire
    Parish Number: 596
    Civil Parish: Kilbirnie
    Town: Kilbirnie
    County: Ayrshire
    Address: 40 Bridge Street
    Occupation: Cotton Weaver
    ED: 7

    Household schedule number: 145
    Line: 7
    Roll: CSSCT1851_132
    Household Members: Name Age
    Elizabeth Orr 43
    Elizabeth Orr 15
    Jean Orr 10
    John Orr 4
    Margaret Orr 12
    Mary Orr 14
    Robert Orr 44
    Robert Orr 7
    Robert Orr 82
    Note: 3 generations of a Robert, that's lucky for Roberts decendants!

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    1861 Scotland Census
    Name: Mary Stirrat
    Age: 23
    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
    Relationship: Wife
    Spouse's name : William
    Gender: Female
    Where born: Kilbirnie, Ayrshire
    Registration Number: 559/2
    Registration district: Abbey Landward
    Civil Parish: Abbey Landward
    County: Renfrewshire
    Address: Hastie's Land
    ED: 7

    Household schedule number: 48
    Line: 8
    Roll: CSSCT1861_74
    Household Members: Name Age
    Elizabeth O Stirrat 2
    Mary Stirrat 23
    Robert Stirrat 13
    William Stirrat 27

    If William is the son of this Mary Orr, where on earth did she put him.
    I don't suppose there is a child William death registered?

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    Here's a reply I got from someone on Genforum North Carolina Board:

    There will be no record of William since he and Annie immigrated in 1885.

    1900 -
    Name: Annie Benson
    Home in 1900: Asheville Ward 4, Buncombe, North Carolina
    Age: 40
    Estimated Birth Year: Feb. 1860
    Birthplace: Scotland
    Relationship to head-of-house: Wife
    Spouse's Name: Michael
    Race: White
    Occupation:
    Immigration Year: 1885

    Michael Benson 36, 11/62 - works @ saw mill, married 15 yr.
    Annie Benson 40, she has had 13 children & 12 are living
    John [ORRT] Benson 20, 11/79, Scotland - immigrated 1885, RR engineer
    Andrew [ORR] Benson 15, 7/85 Scotland - immigrated 1885
    Barcley Benson 13, 11/86 NC
    Malcombe Benson 11, 2/89 NC
    Minnie Benson 8, 6/91 NC
    Annie Benson 7, 4/93 NC
    Victor Benson 4, 3/96 NC
    George Benson 2, 2/98 NC

    Living next to them are -
    Robert ORR 17, 10/82 Scotland - machinist
    Mary 18, 11/81 VA - no children

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    Hello,

    I cannot find a marriage for William Stewart Orr and Annie Craig.

    Looking at the age of John Benson ( Orr ) it would have been within a few years 1876 to 1879.
    If William was born abt 1857.

    On the 1881 Scottish census there is a William and Ann with 3 young sons, but William was born abt 1847 and Ann abt 1857.
    William was born in Kilbirnie and Ann in Ardrossan.


    Anne

  8. #18
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    Now you need the immigration record for William, Annie and family.

    If someone can take a look for 1885.

  9. #19
    Kingetter
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    Quote Originally Posted by giveover View Post
    Now you need the immigration record for William, Annie and family.

    If someone can take a look for 1885.

    Where would this be found?

    James.
    (floundering on iceberg 'tween Britain and N America feeling out of his depth

  10. #20
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    I know that some are listed on A------------y.com.

    I only have access to UK site




    Anne

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