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    Lawrence W. Crider
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    Default Men named Banks in the 17th Lancers

    Quote Originally Posted by Hlomos View Post
    Hello Peggy. I am looking for John Banks of the 17th Lancers. I can't find him so maybe he went under the name if Joseph or Jack. I believe he left Hulme barracks for the Crimea, or it could have been the newly built Aldershot barracks. I also believe his daughter was born in Hulme barracks but no luck so far. It seems the lower orders really were cannon fodder.

    Thank you.
    Charlie.
    There was only one man named Banks serving in the 17th Lancers during the Crimean War . . . Private Joseph Banks. Entry below is from my book:

    ☼ Banks, Pte Joseph, (1311), 17th L (p261)
    Enl 09-13-54 in London at age 19 [54D-3-7]. To Svc Trps 05-28-55 [55D-2-5]. Joined Regt 06-20-55 [55-2-5]. At Baidar 1st Mstr [55-3-5]. AA Charge. Medal [504] w/ S [510] Clasp.

    As you can see, he did not arrive in the Crimea until June 1855, but was entitled to a Medal with an S Clasp. He is mentioned in Lummis and Wynn on page 261, but they have less information than I had.

    Hope this is your ancestor . . .

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    Hello. It doesn't look very likely. Ah well back to the drawing board.
    Thank you.
    Charlie.

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    The man you are asking about is listed as "William Faulks" on the pay lists and muster rolls of the 5th Dragoon Guards. He would have been entitled to a Crimean Medal with a Sebastopol Clasp and a Turkish Medal. Here is what I have about him in my book:


    Faulks, Pte William (1420*), 5th Dragoon Guards
    Jul to Sep 1855: landed 6th Jul; with Service Troops the entire period; 11 days in Regt or Gen Hospital; paid 85 days ordinary pay and 76 days F allowance at 6d per diem with stoppages for 74 days at 4 1/2d per diem [55-3-5]. NB. *Regt. no. 1420 shows alongside the names of two men who arrived on 6 Jul 1855, Edward Mealicott and William Faulks [55-3-5].
    Crimean Medal; LN shown as “Faux” on MR [94].

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    Hello everybody, I haven't been on here for a few years. Good to see the thread is still going. My ancestor was William (Billy) Brittain. Lord Cardigans bugler during the Charge.
    A few years ago I came across the grave of Henry Joy in a churchyard behind a brewery at Hogarths Corner, West London on the A4.
    His headstone claims that he is the man who sounded the Charge of the Light Brigade. I was somewhat peeved to see this knowing that he was in the Heavy Brigade and did not take part in the Charge. He went around claiming that he sounded the Charge for a few years but was shunned by all the veterans of the Charge who knew he did not ride alongside him. He was not invited to the annual dinners of the veterans and eventually owned up to being economical with the truth!!
    I am in the middle of reading a collection of glorious accounts of the Charge and life in the Crimea. I will post the link in my next post as it is full of information and first hand accounts of the tough times the ordinary soldiers suffered in that war.

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    Here is the link. This is really well worth spending some time reading all the accounts. Scroll down to the bottom of the page to get back to the home page...
    https://
    medalcollector.co.uk/chargersearch/accounts.html
    Last edited by MarkJ; 06-01-2013 at 7:31 PM. Reason: Link edited

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    My great great great great uncle was in 13th Regiment Of Light Dragoons and was in the charge. Bartholomew Heron (sometimes Herron) from Dalkeith near Edinburgh. Died in Edinburgh aged just 27. Have done a little research on this and come across Lawrence W. Crider's really good book online. A few things there which I didn't know and at least one I not agree with but hey it fascinating just the same. Would love to know what happened to medals. Scattered to the winds more than likely. Also maybe a daft question but what is Mstr short for as in "In Crimea all 3 Mstrs" - Many thanks

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    Default Bartholomew Heron

    Bartholomew is listed in the 1973 book I have as a Private in the 13th Light Dragoons, but is not shown as having participated in the Charge (= name not capitalized.). The only details given are:

    Enlisted: c. February 1851
    Medal: Crimea (A.B.I.S.)

    Peggy

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    Hi Peggy,

    Thanks for comments. Yes according to my research that one of slight errors in book. He enlisted for instance in 21st Feb 1850. He awarded Crimea medal with all 4 clasps and was also in Scutari Hospital

    For family tree am interested in comments relating to Coventry, Hampton Court, Culloden, and if I can find dates he was at these places. You have any idea as to what MSTR might mean? Here is a quote from Crider's excellent book - In Search of the Light Brigade::-
    "Heron Pte Bartholomew (1432) LD
    At Coventry 3rd Mstr. At Hampton Ct 1st Mstr and Culloden 2nd and 3rd Mstr. In Crimea all 3 Mstrs"

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    Default MSTR

    My knowledge of things military is pretty non-existent. My guess for MSTR would be "Muster." I have copies of entries from Muster Rolls for the unit in which an ancestor served in the US Civil War. They show him as Present or Absent at various times.

    Btw, a person's name not being capitalized in the book I have doesn't mean that he wasn't in the Charge, only that the authors didn't find his name on lists they consulted.

    Peggy

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    Default Charge of the Light Brigade - 8th Hussars

    My great great grandfather was Trooper John McCausland of the 8th Hussars. Family lore has it that he was a participant in The Charge of the Light Brigade and was captured during the battle, however the scant records appear to show that the 8th were held back by the commanding officer so I am unable to reconcile the family story to the battle accounts, can anyone help me clarify this?
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    Brian Wilson

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