Robert Campbell, do I have the right one ?

[Danno]

Hi again
I'm still trying to find my Great++ Grandfather Joseph Campbell, he might have been in and around Northumberland Eng. with son Robert his wife Jane Ann at the time of the 1881 census, soon after the family came to Australia.
This is the closest record I could find (by age and date) for a Robert Campbell & Family moving to Aust.
CAMPBELL Robert 43 and Family (Vessel) Nineveh 1881 (reel) 2141,2492
I thought the family may have moved the same year and soon after the 1881census.
I have Robert born around 1840 - 41

I was searching bdm in NSW for Joseph, then realised I did'nt have Robert Campbell located yet, they were a coal mineing family in England, so it was inevitable I suppose they would move to a very similar community in Australia, Broken Hill etc.

13006/1912 CAMPBELL ROBERT JOSEPH H WALLSEND

ps; sleepless and thinking do not seem to work well together

CheerzzzZZZ
Danno

[michaelpipe]

1871 census, living at Cramlington, Northumberland
Robert Campbell born Cramlington Northumberland 1840, coal miner
wife Jane Ann age 29 born Longbenton, Northumberland
also John age 2, Margaret Ellen age 4, Elizabeth age 6, Mary Ann age 8, Thomas age 11.

1851 census following shortly.

[michaelpipe]

1851 census family at Cramlington

Joseph Campbell, born 1813 at Willington, Northumberland, Coal Miner
wife Mary born 1814 Melbridge, Northumberland
and children
Robert born Cramlington 1840
John born Cramlington 1842
Ann born Cramlington 1844
Joseph born Cramlington 1847
James born Cramlington 1849

Cannot identify Joseph's marriage - nearest appears to be 1838 in South Shields Reg Dist

Robert Campbell and Jane Ann Wanless were married in Tynemouth Reg Dist, Dec Qtr 1861. Looks like them.

Good luck
Michael Pipe

[michaelpipe]

1841 census
Cramlington, Northumberland
Joseph Campbell age 28 coalminer born in Northumberland
Mary age 27 born in Northumberland
Robert age 2 born in Northumberland
John age 1 mth born in Northumberland

There is a birth reg for Robert Campbell in Tynemouth Reg Dist (which contains Cramlington) in the Jun Qtr 1839. This is most probably him.

Michael

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1881 census
4 Lane Row, Cramlington
Joseph H Campbell, coalminer, age 69
Mary age 67, this one says she was born Haltwhistle, Northumberland
William (son) coalminer born 1852

[ChristineR]

Danno

On FreeBMD, in 1873, there is the death of a 46 year old Jane Ann in Tynemouth district.
oops, she is too old.

C

[ChristineR]

from FamilySearch

1881
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Robert CAMPBELL Head M Male 41 Cramlington, Northumberland, England Coal Miner
Jane A. CAMPBELL Wife M Female 39 Benton Sq, Northumberland, England Wife
Elizabeth CAMPBELL Daur U Female 16 Cramlington, Northumberland, England Outnurse (Dom)
Margaret E. CAMPBELL Daur U Female 15 Cramlington, Northumberland, England At Home
John CAMPBELL Son Male 12 Cramlington, Northumberland, England Trapper At Pit
Thomas CAMPBELL Son Male 10 Cramlington, Northumberland, England Scholar
Robert CAMPBELL Son Male 3 Bothal, Northumberland, England Scholar
Mary A. CAMPBELL Daur Female 1 Bothal, Northumberland, England
Jane A. CAMPBELL Daur Female 5 Bothal, Northumberland, England Scholar

Source Information:
Dwelling 130 Bothal Ter
Census Place Pegswood, Northumberland, England
Family History Library Film 1342236
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5117 / 112
Page Number 36

C

[michaelpipe]

This looks like your family, but Jane appears to have vanished, and has been replaced by Mary A aged 40. There is a death for Jane Ann Campbell aged 40 in Morpeth Reg Dist June Qtr 1882. This district happens to contain Pegwell where Christine points out that they were living in 1881. Then he obviously remarried, and there is one marriage in Morpeth (but not 'till 1896) to Mary Ann Ditchburn.

Index to Unassisted Inward Passenger Lists to Victoria 1852-1923 (Victoria Public Record Office)

Name Age Date of Arrival Ship Port Fiche Page
CAMPBELL ROBERT 48 SEP 1887 LUSITANIA B 486 009
CAMPBELL MARY A 40 SEP 1887 LUSITANIA B 486 009
CAMPBELL EDWD 24 SEP 1887 LUSITANIA B 486 008
(This one is a different page number - probably not related)
CAMPBELL MARGT E 21 SEP 1887 LUSITANIA B 486 009
CAMPBELL JOHN 19 SEP 1887 LUSITANIA B 486 009
CAMPBELL THOS 17 SEP 1887 LUSITANIA B 486 009
CAMPBELL JANE A 12 SEP 1887 LUSITANIA B 486 009
CAMPBELL ROBERT 10 SEP 1887 LUSITANIA B 486 009
CAMPBELL MARY A 7 SEP 1887 LUSITANIA B 486 009

Michael

[michaelpipe]

Correction to last post - the marriage of Robert to Mary Ann was Dec Qtr 1886, not 1896

[Danno]

Thank you Michael & Christine

I spent so much time searching for Jane Ann in Australia, I never considered taking into account her passing and Robert re-marrying, my 'Genealogy rollercoaster' certainly took a sharp twist & bend from where I was, learning curves.
SEP 1887 LUSITANIA B this would be the one from all the information so far.
It also looks as though Joseph & Mary never made the Journey to Australia with Robert & family.

(CAMPBELL EDWD 24 SEP 1887 LUSITANIA B 486 008 ) this one has me curious, was he on the passenger list with the family ?.
I'm wondering how he fits in.

{ Mary Ann Ditchburn. } you do realise this has opened another who, what, where, when, I will no doubt be limiting myself to only five or ten minutes on this tonight.
Ok, OK, maybe hours is more like it.

Thank you both again.
Danno