John Garlick

[Sherry Stanton]

I am trying to find out about the family of my great grandfather, John Garlick, who emigrated to South Africa in 1872 at age 20. He was born in Algakirk, Lincolnshire in 1852.
At the end of October 2005 I will be travelling (from San Francisco) to the UK to research his family: brothers, sisters, parents, uncles aunts. Where do I begin? In Algakirk? Or is there a register of births/deaths in Lincoln? Or London?
Appreciate any help, thanks!
Sherry Stanton

[jeeb]

Hi Sherry,
There is a lot of information which can be gathered sitting infront of your computer. A lot of the fun comes from finding things out for yourself but I can tell you that though John Garlick was born in Lincolnshire his father came from Yorkshire so you would not find a lot out from visiting Lincolnshire Record Office. If you want me to give you details of John's father I can do so but it depends on whether you would rather do the research yourself.
Best wishes Jeremy

[Geoff Everitt]

His mother came from Cambridgeshire.

This would be their marriage (as transcribed on FreeBMD, sorry to reveal the parents' names but the certificate could give you some information to work with)-
Marriages Mar 1850
Garlick Jonathan Boston 14 311 Hides Elizabeth Charlotte 14 311

You could order the certificate (online) from here

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ce...te/index.asp#0

(14 is the "Volume number", 311 the "Page number" in the BMD index)

This would give you their fathers' names311 Hides Elizabeth Charlotte 14 311

[Pam Downes]

His mother came from Cambridgeshire.

Hi Geoff,
Do I presume that that info came from the 1851 census, only she says Swineshead on the 1861? (I'm halfway through some info and had already added a note to the effect that adults' allegedly birthplaces are not reliable )
Pam Downes

[Pam Downes]

Hi Sherry,

As Jeremy says, you can gather an awful lot of information from your computer before you even set foot in the UK. And by doing this you can pinpoint exactly where you need to go for further information.
Because of your lack of time, if you don't already have a subscription to Ancestry then either take out a free 14-day trial or use the 7-day, 20-image sub. The latter is only available from ancestry.co.uk and I'm not sure if UK records are available if you use .com's free trial, so sign up for co.uk just in case If you do select the free trial make sure that you keep the cancellation instructions and cancel at least one day in advance.
The sub will give you access to the 1861 and 1871 census records. For 1861, just enter John's name, Lincolnshire for county of residence, and 1851 +/- 2 years for year of birth. (I always do +/- 2 because ages were not always accurate.) Click on image icon, and bingo, John's parents and siblings and where they were (allegedly) born. Children's birthplaces are often correct, but as people get older they tend to say the first place they can remember living which is not necessarily the same place as they were born. (And sometimes they say any place they like the sound of, just to thoroughly confuse us!)
continued...
(to avoid Geoff's repitition problem)

[Pam Downes]

You will also be able to find John junior on the 1871 census, though I admit I'm currently having difficulty trying to find mum and dad and his siblings.
Just found out why I can't find dad - he died in 1862.
Jonathan Garlick, buried 14 Jan 1862 at Algarkirk. Information from the Lincolnshire FHS fiche of burials for Part of Holland West Deanery.
His widow may have re-married and John junior's siblings may have been listed under her new surname on the 1871 census.
FreeBMD at
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/
has the births of John junior and the two siblings on the 1861 census registered in the Boston registration district between 1850 and 1860. And they also have the death of John senior registered in 1862, but note the spelling of his name.
Birth and death certificates will give you actual birth and death dates. Parish register entries for baptisms and burials are only guaranteed to give you baptism and burial dates, but *may* give birth and death dates too. The dates on marriages certificates obtained from the GRO should be the same as the dates in the parish registers, so if you know the church in which a marriage took place you can save yourself a few bob. For the place of marriage of John junior's parents
http://s10.freefronthost.com/mi/index.html
Read Boston introduction and then open Boston spreadsheet.
continued......

[Pam Downes]

...and finally.
For events that will have taken place in Lincolnshire, e.g. the marriage of John senior, his burial, hopefully the baptism of the children, you will need the parish registers which will be at Lincoln Archives.
http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/index.asp?docId=34806
Note that you will need two passport-sized photos in order to obtain a reader's ticket. Best to book fiche readers.
The list of PRs which they hold can be found at
http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/secti...375&catid=6726
Guide to sources
http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/secti...173&catId=6648
might be handy. The 1841 and 1861 census, should you need them, are across the road in Lincoln Central Library. Five minutes walk, plus five minutes waiting time for the pedestrian lights to work in your favour!
Don't know if Jeremy would know where you would need to go to search for the baptism of John senior. Yorkshire is a very large county and I don't know if they have one huge Record Office or lots of smaller ones.
If you're fairly new to UK research and want things clarified, then just ask.

Pam Downes

[Geoff Everitt]

Hi Geoff,
Do I presume that that info came from the 1851 census, only she says Swineshead on the 1861?

Yes, from the 1851

2098/37
Roman Bank Rd, Algarkirk
Jonathan GARLICK 26 Farm Bailiff, Yorks Swinefleet
Elizabeth 20 Cambridgeshire Wisbeach
Rosette 6m Algarkirk
Sarah HARLEY 16 Gen servant, Sutterton
George METCALFE 29 No proffesion, Yorks Leeds

I see that the baptism on the link I posted shows the same father as the marriage on the link that Pam posted (which is handy!)

Pam: thanks for the link to the Boston marriages - Boston must have just appeared as it wasn't there the other day.

[Pam Downes]

Just found out why I can't find dad - he died in 1862.
Jonathan Garlick, buried 14 Jan 1862 at Algarkirk. Information from the Lincolnshire FHS fiche of burials for Part of Holland West Deanery.

Forgot to say, aged 37.
Pam Downes

[jeeb]

Hi All,
I got the impression from Sherry's first thread she wished to do her own research so that is why I didn't post the information on here until she asked for it. I always find the real thrill comes from finding that information for yourself. As she is coming over from US I thought it best to warn her about the Yorkshire connection. Anyway now the information has been divulged, so Sherry you will need to go to Doncaster Library for the Yorkshire connection and they can be e-mailed at doncaster.archives@doncaster.gov.uk
Jeremy.