1851 Census look-up please, and Maritime query ?

[Lynda Cunningham]

Hi

I would appreciate some help
I'm looking for John Russell on the 1851.
He should be 24yrs.

I have him on the 1861 at
No 6 Longcroft Street(South Side)
Southampton (Parish St Mary)
details:- John Russell/Head/Married/34/Master Mariner/Hants,Southampton
Jane Taylor Russell/Wife/32/Dorset,Poole

I was also wondering if there are any Maritime records where I might locate him?

Thank you
Lynda

[Geoffers]

John Russell/Head/Married/34/Master Mariner/Hants,Southampton
I was also wondering if there are any Maritime records where I might locate him

There should be a few records to assist you, best place to start is The National Archives, Kew. Have a look at their research guides to see what is available:
http://www.catalogue.nationalarchive...uidesindex.asp
(click on 'M' and then select the appropriate links under Merchant Navy)

Geoffers

[Lynda Cunningham]

Dear Geoffers

Thank you so much for responding so quickly.

I will check that link as soon as I've finished this posting.

Please forgive my ignorance, but I've sooooo much to learn.
So a Master Mariner would be on a merchant ship, as oppossed to Navy?

Best wishes
Lynda

PS. Yuor tpynig lokos OK to me

[AnnB]

Hello Lynda

I think this is a fair definition of a Master Mariner - sorry, but I can't remember where I got it from

Master Mariner is the official title of someone qualified to command a ship; the qualification is colloquially called a "Master's Ticket". The term was introduced in the mid 19th century, and is usually held by the chief officer/first mate as well as the captain. This term was in use in England from at least the 13th century. The captain of a merchant vessel is also called the Master of that ship.

Best wishes
Ann

[Lynda Cunningham]

Hello Ann

Thanks very much for the definition.
That's great

Best wishes
Lynda

[Geoffers]

Please forgive my ignorance, but I've sooooo much to learn. So a Master Mariner would be on a merchant ship, as oppossed to Navy?.

Yes, Merchant marine. If he continued working as a Master Mariner past 1857, he should appear in the annual 'Mercantile Navy List' some copies of which might be found at larger reference libraries.

Yuor tpynig lokos OK to me

Spank you - curses, there it goes again - thank you

Geoffers

[Lynda Cunningham]

Geoffers

More good stuff, thanks again

Lynda

[dunamis]

Hi

Could you please send me details of your John Russell, Master Mariner? I have a Henry Jackson Russell who immigrated to Australia abt 1875. On his death certificate it states that he was born in Kent abt 1859 (age is iffy and could be later as he eloped) and his parents were John Russell (master mariner) and Ann Rawlings. If Ann died, he could have remarried. You can see how desperate I am getting. Ever so slight chance that your John could be grandfather

Finding any information on this family has been very difficult. They left a very light imprint on the earth. So if they match, or are likely to be related, I'd be very grateful for any information.

Thank you[/FONT]Margaret[/FONT]

[notanotherminer]

Hi Margaret and welcome to Brit-Gen

Lynda hasn't been on the Forum for a while but she might still see your post.

I have looked at the 1861 census mentioned in the first post (RG09/674/149/page 19 Crown Copyright TNA) and the only children living with John and Jane Russell were Sarah Maria,3 and James John, 2. This would have given James John a birthdate of 1858/9 making it unlikely that John could have been the father of your Henry unless, as you suggested, he was born some time later.

[notanotherminer]

FreeBMD does not show any birth between 1855 and 1865 of a Henry Jackson Russell in Kent or any other county. I also checked under the name Henry Jackson Rawlings but again there is nothing.

Do you have a marriage certificate for him. If not do you when, where and to whom he married?