Robert Moss c.1806

[helachau]

The Preston Chronicle, Sat 7 July 1838
DEATHS
On Wednesday last, Mr Robert Moss, Albert Street, aged 39 years. He was struck by lightning, during the severe storm on that day

[bettyespana]

Marriage: 11 Aug 1806 St Leonard, Walton-le-Dale, Lancashire, England
John Bennison -
Alice Parker -
Source: LDS Film 1514652

Baptism: 12 Apr 1807 St James, Brindle, Lancashire, England
Hannah Bennison - Dau of John Bennison & Alice
Abode: Brindle
Register: Baptisms 1789 - 1812, Page 70, Entry 20
Source: LDS Film 1849648

Marriage: 30 May 1831 St Leonard the Less, Samlesbury, Lancashire, England
Robert Moss - this Chapelry
Ann Bennison - (X), this Chapelry ( transcribed as BANNISTER)
Witness: William Marsden, (Walton), (X); John Valentine
Married by Banns by: Henry W McGrath
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1837, Page 129, Entry 387
Source: LDS Film 1526061

1841 Census
Class: HO107; Piece: 498; Book: 9; Civil Parish:
Preston; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 11; Folio: 7; Page: 10; Line: 21;
Albert Street
MOSS Hannah 30 cotton weaver
MOSS James 9 of county Lancs
MOSS Alice 7 of county Lancs
MOSS John 5 of county Lancs

Marriage: 5 Sep 1841 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
Thomas Wiggins - (X), full, Weaver, Widower, Back Albert St
Hannah Moss - (X), full, Weaver, Widow, Albert St
Groom's Father: Late James Wiggins, Labourer
Bride's Father: Late John Bennison, Weaver
Witness: William Wiggins; Elizabeth Latham
Married by Certificate by: C Richson, Curate
Register: Marriages 1839 - 1841, Page 219, Entry 437
Source: LDS Film 93993

1851 Census
H107 2265 40 36
30 Albert Street
WIGGANS Thomas 55 Hand loom weaver cotton Sunderland Northumberland
WIGGANS Ann 44 Brindle Lancs
WIGGANS Thomas 5 Preston Lancs
WIGGANS Margaret 2 Preston Lancs
MOSS James 19 Card Grinder Preston Lancs
MOSS Alice 17 Hand loom weaver cotton Preston Lancs
MOSS John 15 Hand loom weaver cotton Preston Lancs

1861 RG9 3128 99 39 has the family at 74 Albert Street

Baptism
Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
23 Mar 1796

WIGGINS Thomas son of James Wiggins & Sarah Addison

British Army in Canada
John Moss aged 18

abt 1836 Preston, Lancaster

20 Dec 1854 - 97th Foot Soldiers

1881
MOSS Alice appears to be unmarried living at 3 Clifton St Preston RG11; Piece: 4239; Folio: 38; Page: 71

1891
RG12; Piece: 3432; Folio: 132; Page: 30
are Alice & Brother John MOSS both desc as single

Could this be Robert’s burial
Burial: 7 Jul 1838 St Mary, Penwortham, Lancashire, England
Robert Moss -
Age: 39 yrs
Abode: Preston
Buried by: W. Harrison Curate
Register: Burials 1813-1841 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 178, Entry 1424
Source: LDS Film 1502456

You are indeed a genius.Thank you so much for finding all this info for me,this is great.
It is intriguing because this is my dads paternal line & finding John b.1836 was in the 92nd Foot soldiers even more so.
My dads maternal Gt Grandfather was also in the 92nd Foot soldiers 1817-1839.

Kind regards
Betty

[bettyespana]

The Preston Chronicle, Sat 7 July 1838
DEATHS
On Wednesday last, Mr Robert Moss, Albert Street, aged 39 years. He was struck by lightning, during the severe storm on that day

Wow! Thanks for finding this helachau.What a sad way to die & at such an early age.

Kind regards
Betty

[helachau]

The Blackburn Standard, Wed 11 July, 1838

His death was reported as follows "..... he was at one moment engaged in administering some humble nourishment to his poor wife, who had been prematurely confined in childbirth on the preceding night - and the next he lay stretched a lifeless corpse, to the agonized view of a widow and three fatherless children".

[geneius]

Betty ...so pleased all this ties in nicely, for me the bonus is the speculative Burial in Penwortham, that is confirmed by 'helachau's' find in the local press.

Might be interesting to look at the Parish register to see if the the officiating minister has made any comment on the record.

However my experience of Lancs opc is if there is a note they mention it in transcription!

Still not found Robert's baptism yet?!

[geneius]

Food for thougth.....Some of your options!!! Of theses I would favour the one with James & Alice as parents particularly as also received into Penworthen Church, after all his children were given those names!!!!!

His wife's parents being John & Alice, so Alice being both mother's name and James & John the father's


Baptism: 27 Sep 1795 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
Robert Moss - Son of James Moss & Nancy
Born: 19 Aug
Register: Baptisms 1792 - 1795, Page 58, Entry 15
Source: LDS Film 1278740


Baptism: 24 Mar 1797 St Wilfrid, Farnworth near Prescot, Lancashire, England
Robert Moss - Son of Betty Moss
Abode: Widnes
Notes: BC
Register: Baptisms 1761 - 1812, Page 99, Entry 13
Source: LDS Film 1655234 item 3


Baptism: 19 1798 St Mary, Penwortham, Lancashire, England
Robt. Moss - Son of John Moss & Peggy
Abode: Penwortham
Register: Baptisms 1794 - 1812, Page 5, Entry 19
Source: LDS Film 1502346


Baptism: 30 Mar 1800 St Mary the Virgin, Goosnargh, Lancashire, England
Robert Moss - Son of Robert Moss
Abode: Goos.
Register: Baptisms 1730 - 1808, Page 96, Entry 14
Source: LDS Film 1470930


Baptism: 31 Jan 1802 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
Robt. Moss - Son of Robt. Moss & Mary
Born: 21 Dec 1801
Register: Baptisms 1795 - 1806, Page 76, Entry 1809
Source: LDS Film 1278740


Baptism: 20 Jun 1802 St Andrew, Longton, Lancashire, England
Robert Moss - Son of Wm. Moss & Hannah
Abode: Longton
Register: Baptisms 1777 - 1812, Page 88
Source: LDS Film 1278777


Baptism: 15 Nov 1802 St Mary, Penwortham, Lancashire, England
Robt. Moss - Son of James Moss & Alice
Abode: Longton
Register: Baptisms 1794 - 1812, Page 9, Entry 24
Source: LDS Film 1502346

[bettyespana]

Food for thougth.....Some of your options!!! Of theses I would favour the one with James & Alice as parents particularly as also received into Penworthen Church, after all his children were given those names!!!!!

His wife's parents being John & Alice, so Alice being both mother's name and James & John the father's




Baptism: 27 Sep 1795 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
Robert Moss - Son of James Moss & Nancy
Born: 19 Aug
Register: Baptisms 1792 - 1795, Page 58, Entry 15
Source: LDS Film 1278740


Baptism: 24 Mar 1797 St Wilfrid, Farnworth near Prescot, Lancashire, England
Robert Moss - Son of Betty Moss
Abode: Widnes
Notes: BC
Register: Baptisms 1761 - 1812, Page 99, Entry 13
Source: LDS Film 1655234 item 3


Baptism: 19 1798 St Mary, Penwortham, Lancashire, England
Robt. Moss - Son of John Moss & Peggy
Abode: Penwortham
Register: Baptisms 1794 - 1812, Page 5, Entry 19
Source: LDS Film 1502346


Baptism: 30 Mar 1800 St Mary the Virgin, Goosnargh, Lancashire, England
Robert Moss - Son of Robert Moss
Abode: Goos.
Register: Baptisms 1730 - 1808, Page 96, Entry 14
Source: LDS Film 1470930


Baptism: 31 Jan 1802 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
Robt. Moss - Son of Robt. Moss & Mary
Born: 21 Dec 1801
Register: Baptisms 1795 - 1806, Page 76, Entry 1809
Source: LDS Film 1278740


Baptism: 20 Jun 1802 St Andrew, Longton, Lancashire, England
Robert Moss - Son of Wm. Moss & Hannah
Abode: Longton
Register: Baptisms 1777 - 1812, Page 88
Source: LDS Film 1278777


Baptism: 15 Nov 1802 St Mary, Penwortham, Lancashire, England
Robt. Moss - Son of James Moss & Alice
Abode: Longton
Register: Baptisms 1794 - 1812, Page 9, Entry 24
Source: LDS Film 1502346

There is also another one with parents James & Alice
It is 2.March 1806 Longton (St Andrew)
I have that one in my notes.

I am a tad confused because when John was born in 1836 that would only make Robert 30 if born in 1806.
If Robert was born 1802 as you have found then he would be 34/35.
When he died his age in the paper & the burial details for Penwortham said he was 39yrs.So had Hannah/Ann given birth to another child which we do not have details of?

Regards

Betty

[geneius]

Burial: 7 Jul 1838 St Mary, Penwortham, Lancashire, England
Robert Moss - Age: 39 yrs

Betty - I was working on the basis of the burial aged 39...thinking this would be more accurate....there is always the possibility that Robert was not a babe in arms when baptised!!

Jean

[bettyespana]

Betty - I was working on the basis of the burial aged 39...thinking this would be more accurate....there is always the possibility that Robert was not a babe in arms when baptised!!

Jean

Yes Jean,

I am sure you are right taking in to consideration these are all baptisms.I must be having a senior moment!
Too many of them these days I'm afraid ha!ha!
Regards & thanks
Betty