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    Default Macdonald London

    I recently had the opportunity to go through a suitcase of photos and among them were two photos of particular interest. One appears to be the marriage photo of William Pearce and his new inlaws (1919).

    Another photo is inscribed (on the back!) Horace Macdonald son of James MacDonald and indicating that James was the brother of the bride's father (Donald Macdonald who was deceased at the time of his daughter's marriage)

    I am having difficulty finding either Horace or James in the census records (some sites they seem to show up and others they are absent ???)

    any assistance would be appreciated
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    Try RG14 PN682 SN440 - 12 Angier Road St Pancras

    Head James McDonald b1858 Scotland Glasgow journeyman tailor + wife Eliza Annie
    Horace son b1901 St Pancras + 5 other sons aged 8 - 18

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    In 1911 there is a Horace, aged 10, with parents James and Lizzie, 12 Ainger Road, St. Pancras
    RG14; Piece: 682

    I suggest that when searching you use M*cDonald. I know from personal experience that Mc/Mac is pretty interchangeable
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    Same address in 1901 RG13/133/141/23

    James is a trade union secretary, Horace is 2 months old

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    Marriages Sep 1/4 1919
    Dorothy A Macdonald
    William R Pearce
    Pancras 1b 270
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    Thanks to your replies I have managed to make some progress.
    I have located James Macdonald (recorded as McDonald) in the 1891 census where he is living with his brother.
    These records have thrown some doubt on our previous research.

    Amy Macdonald is recorded in the censuses as
    1891 Amy Page McDonald aged 25 (born 1866) Kentish Town London
    1901 Amy Macdonald aged 34 (born 1867) Kentish Town, London

    Amy Macdonald's death certificate (1903) shows her as 36 (born 1867)

    Donald McDonald and Amy Page were married in 1885 and the marriage certificates shows Amy aged 22 and her father as John Page deceased.

    The only Amy Page I can find in this time period is Amy Susan Page in 1863 and her birth certificate shows that she is the daughter of John Page (coach builder journeyman) and Elizabeth Page formerly Lewis. I note that the marriage certificate is probably the only record where Amy would give her age as I imagine that Donald provided the information for census returns????

    So the next step is to find this family in 1871, 1881 census (no success to date - perhaps Page is recorded as Paige, or Paye???)

    Donald Macdonald shows up in the census records as
    1891 Donald McDonald Tailor aged 36 (born 1855) Scotland
    1901 Donald Macdonald tailor aged 44 (born 1857) Glasgow
    1911 Donald Macdonald widower, Tailor aged 56 (born 1855) Glasgow

    James Macdonald
    1891 James McDonald tailor aged 24? (born 1867) Scotland
    1901 James Macdonald Trade Union Secretary aged 43 (born 1858) Scotland
    1911 James Macdonald Journeyman Tailor aged 53 (born 1858) Glasgow

    I am not having any success in finding these brothers before 1891 and especially in Scotland

    Donald McDonald's marriage certificate indicates that his father was Donald McDonald, tailor

    Any assistance, advice or comments welcomed
    thanks
    daryl

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    1871 RG10/280/39/30
    1 (sorry can't read address) Islington
    John Page 44 coachbuilder Rickling Essex
    Elizabeth Page 46 Shepton Mallet Somerset
    Mary Ann Page 17 dressmaker Buxton Surrey
    William G Page 15 apprentice to jeweller Marylebone Middlesex
    Sarah L Page 13 dress maker Marylebone Middlesex
    Eliza I Page 11 Hendon? Middlesex
    Amy S Page 7 Kentish town
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    Possible death of John Page age 45 September 1/4 1871 Islington 1b/227 Matches with the age in 1871 census.

    I looked for this death because I am having trouble finding them in 1881 so thought maybe John died and Elizabeth remarried.
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    A James Macdonald was Secretary to the Trades Union Council around 1900 (from several newspaper reports of the time)

    see https://www.whoislog.info/profile/james-macdonald-3.html

    Note his original occupation
    "dyfal donc a dyr y garreg"

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    Re Post 7 above, I think the address is 1 Pierrepont Terrace - the Enumerator has it as Peirpont Terrace on page 1 of the description of the District.

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