HORNE family in Edinburgh

[jac65]

Alas, it's not the right Henry Horne. I had actually previously viewed the marriage on Scotland's People (I just checked). The above Henry was the son of Oswald Horne and Alice Duncan. No match.

That is a pity. I'm wondering if the family might have moved when living in Edinburgh and the missing baptisms are at other churches that are not online. David Horne was a shoemaker so there is a good chance he would be in the likes of Post Office Directories.You can access these through the National Library Scotland. http://digital.nls.uk/directories/browse/index.cfm It will be time consuming but if you can find if the family address changed or when David disappeared from the directories it might help finding the movement of the family>

Andy

[grisel]

Have you been able to discount the death in aug 1849 of a David Horn , Edinburgh , St Cuthbert's parish? (from Scotlandspeople, no age given)

[grisel]

National archives of Scotland hold records for Bread St UP church 1829-1928. ref CH3/112. Not online unfortunately.

[jac65]

Bread St UP Baptisms are on Familysearch, they are Batch No C191821 I searched for Henry & Robert just using their first names and a birth date range but no sign of them. Perhaps the family decided to go to another Church that is not online yet.

[cdnsctgirl]

I'm wondering if the family might have moved when living in Edinburgh and the missing baptisms are at other churches that are not online. David Horne was a shoemaker so there is a good chance he would be in the likes of Post Office Directories.You can access these through the National Library Scotland. http://digital.nls.uk/directories/browse/index.cfm It will be time consuming but if you can find if the family address changed or when David disappeared from the directories it might help finding the movement of the family>

A search for a name starting with "hor" turns up exactly zero hits. Very odd. I swear, sometimes I think this family was dropped into Scotland by aliens...

The only other bit of information that I could find on Scotland's People that was intriguing was a marriage for a David Horne (a shoemaker) to a Janet Wilson in 1822... in Glasgow. I'd always assumed that James Wilson Horne (David's son) got his middle name from his paternal grandmother, Agnes Wilson... but perhaps Janet (and not Isabella) was actually James's mother. That might help explain the large gap of almost six years between James and his younger siblings. However, I have no idea why David would've been in Glasgow; he was born in Roxburghshire and raised his family in Edinburgh. Could he have lived in Glasgow, too? I can understand a soldier or a seaman moving around quite a bit... but a shoemaker?

Bread St UP Baptisms are on Familysearch, they are Batch No C191821 I searched for Henry & Robert just using their first names and a birth date range but no sign of them. Perhaps the family decided to go to another Church that is not online yet.

I was told once that quite a few churches in the IGI only had female baptisms transcribed, with the idea that the males would be done at a later date. I've run into this with other families, too, so I assumed Bread Street United was one of those churches. I suppose I would have to actually look at the records at the National Archives if I wanted to find the boys... though since I'm in Canada, that's not likely to happen.

Have you been able to discount the death in aug 1849 of a David Horn , Edinburgh , St Cuthbert's parish? (from Scotlandspeople, no age given)

I may have. I looked up a number of David Horns on ScotlandsPeople in the past (at quite a cost... paying for mere search results is expensive!) and viewed the images of those that seemed likely. The fact that I haven't recorded that date suggests there was something in the image that led me to believe it wasn't a match. I've even searched in Berwick-upon-Tweed for the deaths, since James (the son) was living there by 1851. No luck.

[cdnsctgirl]

Though, upon further inspection, the IGI batch for Bread Street United does contain boys. Aargh.

[jac65]

A search for a name starting with "hor" turns up exactly zero hits. Very odd. I swear, sometimes I think this family was dropped into Scotland by aliens...

Where did you search?

From http://digital.nls.uk/directories/browse/index.cfm scroll down and select Towns. then select Edinburgh scroll down and select 1838-1846 - Post-Office annual directory and calendar [91049141] then select a directory

I selected 1843-44. then towards the centre top you will see a dropdown box select the Index Page. This shows that in this directory the General Directory starts at page 1 The General Directory is like a telephone book with names in alphebetical order. Horne is on page 85. and shows a David Horne, shoemaker, 13 Hill Place.

Checking 1834/35 David was at 1 Richmond Place, the same address as the 1841 census.

David is in the 1844/45 directory at 13 Hill Place but is not there in 1845/46 and there is no sign of him.

Andy

[grisel]

I may have. I looked up a number of David Horns on ScotlandsPeople in the past (at quite a cost... paying for mere search results is expensive!) and viewed the images of those that seemed likely. The fact that I haven't recorded that date suggests there was something in the image that led me to believe it wasn't a match. I've even searched in Berwick-upon-Tweed for the deaths, since James (the son) was living there by 1851. No luck.

Of course you may have deleted them, but it might be worth checking in 'viewed images' and 'previous searches' in your Scotlandspeople page. I love the fact that all my previous searches and images I paid for are still there to view years after. I tend to keep the wrong ones too to save me making the same mistake again.

If David died sometime between 1844 when he was last recorded in the PO directory, but before 1855 then there may be no death record existing at all however.

[cdnsctgirl]

Oh... thanks for that, Andy. I just plugged in the name on the first page. It didn't come up with anything. I didn't realize you had to go to the individual towns.

What a great resource! I'm off to search for some other relations. Thanks for the link!

Yes, grisel, I feared that might be the case since David seems to have died just before the 1855 cut-off point. It's sad that people could disappear without a trace back then. Thank goodness for the changes that came in 1855!

[jac65]

Hi

There are about 800 directories accessable through the National Library of Scotland. If you look at the first page it breaks the directories down to Scotland, Counties or Towns, you just follow the links down until you get to the individual diectories in each catagory.

You can also access Scottish Directories through Internet Archives
http://archive.
org/search.php?query=collection%3Ascottishdirectories

I found that if I wanted to do a quick lookup then the National Library of Scotland was quickest but if for many directories I downloaded from Internet Archive.

Andy