Harold Graham Fleming and Betty Fleming

[chico2704]

Betty Fleming (maiden name unknown) died 14 feb 1998 in Mudeford ,Dorset (UK) and was married to Harold Graham Fleming ,born in Groningen(NL) on 14 apr 1918 and died 23 feb 1998 in Bournemouth ,Hampshire UK.
In 1940 Harold Graham Fleming emigrated to London and stayed there.
My questions:
a. birth date and place of Betty Fleming
b. betty's maiden familyname
c. wedding date and place of this couple.
d. who are the parents of Betty Fleming.

Thanks in advance , chico2704.

[Peter Goodey]

The death certificate of Betty Fleming should state her date and place of birth and her maiden name.

I suspect the index entry relating to this death is...

Betty Irmgard Fleming
Birth Date: 11 Aug 1923
Date of Registration: Feb 1998
Registration district: East Dorset
Register Number: B2
District and Subdistrict: 4261B
Entry number: 269

Order the certificate from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ce...es/default.asp

Once you've obtained this certificate, we can start looking for her birth and marriage.

[chico2704]

Hello Peter, thank you so much. I ordered the death certificate , so in the beginning of August I will receive the answer.After that we could search for the marriage date .
Again, thank you very Dutch ,
Regards from Holland , chico2704

[chico2704]

From the GRO I got the death certificate which stated that B.I. Neumann was born in Germany on Aug 11th 1923. She married Harold Graham Fleming, most probably in London, Westham. Before they died , they lived in Mudeford ,Christchurch , East Dorset ,UK. Who could help me with my following questions:
a. marriage date of both.
b. in which town in Germany is B.I. Neumann born.
c.who are the parents of Betty Irmgard Neumann.
Thanks in advance ,
Dutch regards , Chico2704 from the Netherlands.

[Waitabit]

If you Google "German Genealogy", a page of helpful sites comes up, 3 ofwhich are:

http://www.passengerlists.de/

www.genealogienetz.de/genealogy.html

http://
illbeseeingyouinfamiliarplaces.wordpress.com/videos/genealogy-tool-box/ (lots of links here) German sites toward the bottom.

illbeseeingyouinfamiliarplaces.wordpress.com/.../genealogy-tool-box... (several of these)

I only had a quick look so don't know if there are commercial links here.

[chico2704]

The death certificate of Betty Fleming should state her date and place of birth and her maiden name.

I suspect the index entry relating to this death is...

Betty Irmgard Fleming
Birth Date: 11 Aug 1923
Date of Registration: Feb 1998
Registration district: East Dorset
Register Number: B2
District and Subdistrict: 4261B
Entry number: 269

Order the certificate from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ce...es/default.asp

Once you've obtained this certificate, we can start looking for her birth and marriage.

Betty Irmgard NEUMANN was born 11 aug 1923 in Germany , city unknown according GRO.
Hopefully somebody could tell me their wedding date and place . (Most probably in London Westham)
As well I am searching now for her parents.
Regards Chico 2704 from the Netherlands.

[chico2704]

From the GRO I got the death certificate which stated that B.I. Neumann was born in Germany on Aug 11th 1923. She married Harold Graham Fleming, most probably in London, Westham. Before they died , they lived in Mudeford ,Christchurch , East Dorset ,UK. Who could help me with my following questions:
a. marriage date of both.
b. in which town in Germany is B.I. Neumann born.
c.who are the parents of Betty Irmgard Neumann.
Thanks in advance ,
Dutch regards , Chico2704 from the Netherlands.

It is very strange , I expected that her birth town in Germany would be mentioned on her death certificate of the GRO , but it says only Germany. If I order now A BIRTH CERTIFICATE , who garantees me that her birthplace in Germany will be mentioned?? Will it be mentioned Yes or No? And are the names of her parents mentioned on her death certificate as well?
Hopefully somebody could answer these questiones.
Dutch regards , Chico2704 , Netherlands.

[MarkJ]

You won't be able to order a UK birth certificate as she was born in Germany.
I would look at the links Wendy mentioned a couple of posts back as to how to proceed with the German side of things.

I have no idea what a German birth certificate has on it, but that is the only way to proceed I think.

As to her place of birth not being mentioned on the death certificate, well, the information on the certificate is what is given to the registrar by the person who reports the death. They may not know the location of the deceaseds birth (or exact age or whatever) and can only give the details they know.

[chico2704]

From the GRO I got the death certificate which stated that Betty Irmgard Neumann was born in Germany on Aug 11th 1923. She married Harold Graham Fleming, most probably in London, Westham. I think around 1947 in London , Westham.
Is there anybody who could check their marriage date and place? As well , I need her fathers name , which will be on that marriage certificate.
Thanks in advance ,
Chico2704 , Groningen , Netherlands.