Missing Burials at Hull

[John Gage]

Hello East Riding,
I am trying to find the burial information concerning my paternal great grandparents: William Gage (sometimes spelt Geadge or Gedge but never in later life) and his wife Maria. They both left Norfolk for East Yorks. in 1851 and eventually settled in various parts of Hull, where they raised a family. William was born in 1826 (Norfolk) and died in the Dec qtr. of 1898, aged 72, his death location is given as the Sculcoates Reg. Dist., Hull East Yorks. In 1891 he lived at Dry Pool, Hull. His wife Maria was born in 1830 (Norfolk) and died in the Sep qtr. 1913, aged 88 (where her birth of 1825 is incorrect and her age should read 83), she also died in the Sculcoates Reg. Dist. of Hull. Her address in 1901 was 3 Victoria Square, St Andrews, Sculcoates, Kingston Upon Hull. Unfortunately I have not been able to find her 1911 details.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Wolftone [John Gage]

[Jan1954]

Hello John,

Do you have the death certificates for either one of them? If so, it may show their last address and thus help you to pinpoint where they were buried, if local to their home. Also, an actual date will help you to see if there is a funeral notice in the local newspaper that could provide some clues.

[Pam Downes]

I know it says she was born Windham (sic) but how about the Maria who is living in Sculcoates Union Workhouse? RG14 PN28710 SN9999
Transcribed as Maria Gaye by both Ancestry and FMP, and found because she'd been originally transcribed as Gay by Ancestry in 1891.

(Census in care of TNA, and Crown copyright.)

Pam

[RayBuck]

John
Try Maria Gaye age 85 widow inmate in the 1911,East Sculcoats workhouse census she was Born windham (as spelt) Norfolk

[John Gage]

I Know it says Gay under Ancestry in the 1891 Census, but this is a transcription error which has subsequently been corrected, FTM gives the correct transcription of Gage, how Ancestry got it wrong is a bit of a mystery as, the at least acceptable error, should have read Gaye as there is a deffinate "e" on the end, but anyway closer examination strongly intermates that the letter in error is not a "y" but a "g".
Whilst I understand that the Maria Gaye living in the Union Workhouse could possibly be my Maria, there is little or no evidence (so far) to support this. In the 1911 Censuses, just before her death in 1913, there were no less than 7 of her children living in the Hull/Sclcoates area, 3 x sons and 4 daughters, admitedly all married. Some would be classed, by the standards of the day, as reasonably affluent. Surely it is likely that one of them might have given their poor old mother a home? Of course, if, as sometimes happened at this time, the Union Workhouse was also a hospital for those eldrely persons who were suffering from some kind of dementia, then this may have been a compelling reason for her being there, other than poverty.
Many thanks anyway for your help.
Regards,
John

I know it says she was born Windham (sic) but how about the Maria who is living in Sculcoates Union Workhouse? RG14 PN28710 SN9999
Transcribed as Maria Gaye by both Ancestry and FMP, and found because she'd been originally transcribed as Gay by Ancestry in 1891.

(Census in care of TNA, and Crown copyright.)

Pam

[John Gage]

Hi Jan,
Thanks for your reply. No Unfotunately I do not have her death cert. The reson for this is simply cost. I have a very large tree and many close relations, in order to get BMD's for them I would need to outlay a great deal of money, not acceptable in these times. So I have limited myself to direct ancestors only, but even here it would run into hundreds of pounds, again not acceptable. So in the end I decided that unless there was a definate advantage to be gained from haveing the certs., then I would leave them out. In this case there is little to be gained other than a possible hint at the burial parish, which I have a good idea which it might be in any case. Personally I feel the cost of BMD's is prohibitive and there is no consideration for genealogists and family historians who might wish to bulk buy, nor are there any concessionary rates for people on fixed limited incomes such as pensioners, etc. Again local newspapers are great if you can easily view them or they are on line, in this case I have not so far discovered such a facility, if you know of any please let me know.
Thankyou for your suggestions.
Best regards,
John

[John Gage]

Hi Ray
Thanks for the input. I had already seen this and decided to leave it for the time being, until I have found more corroborative data and pllease see my reply to Pam Downs as to why I have doubts. But on second thoughts, I agree it need serious consideration. Windham? It's got to be Wymonham, hasn't it, she realy must have been gaga, as 10 years earlier she remembered she was born at Little Ellingham. The strong point is her age 85 in 1911 would make her a birthyear of 1826, which would be correct.
So again thanks and I will look into this more closely.
Best regards,
John

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