WHITEHOUSE

[Whitehouse]

Hi janbooth, I have put a request for the attestation papers thank you so much for your help, you do mention two brothers of William Charles and John as does Olliecat James Henry and George both have different DOB ?

[Whitehouse]

Hi Pam, Thank you for your input it must take some time doing all the typing, i get brain fried at times from all the knowledge that is coming my way, of which let me say i am so grateful. Thanks again for you help much appreciated, Regards Richard

[Whitehouse]

Hi Olliecat as usual i find it amazing that you can find all this information, must take years of practice, thanks again, Brilliant. Regards Richard

[olliecat]

Hi Olliecat as usual i find it amazing that you can find all this information, must take years of practice, thanks again, Brilliant. Regards Richard

We like to help where possible, so you are welcome. Do let us know when you get hold of William's attestation papers. Hopefully there will be useful information on them.

If we can help further please don't hesitate to ask.

[Pam Downes]

Hi Pam, Thank you for your input it must take some time doing all the typing, i get brain fried at times from all the knowledge that is coming my way, of which let me say i am so grateful. Thanks again for you help much appreciated, Regards Richard

Been there, got the T-shirt.
You now need to go through things very carefully, and assess what fits, and what might not, because initially people find things and post the information 'just in case'. e.g. my find of Isaac and Charles in Essex in 1841 (post #6).
Judging from what else has been found, I now think it's unlikely that they are William's brothers, but until you find further positive information about them you can't entirely rule them out.
But definitely concentrate on getting those naval records of William first.

Pam

[janbooth]

Hi Richard,

It looks as if the Joseph WHITEHOUSE I found together with brother? Isaac in the 1841 census of Chelmsford may well have been born in Bridgewater also judging from subsequent census records c1820 but unfortunately, Ancestry seems to have gone down at the moment so can't investigate further but will do so later on when it comes back up again.

Janet

[janbooth]

Ancestry back up again, so here are the details for Joseph WHITEHOUSE:

1861 census of Bath (RG9/1713, folio 14, page 21)
2 Mitchell Lane

Joseph WHITEHOUSE Head Mar 40 Iron Moulder Bridgewater Som
Agnes do Wife Mar 33 do Wife Bristol
Alice Agnes do Daur Un 14 House Servant do
Maria Clara do Daur Un 12 do do
William Tho do Son 11 Scholar do
Ann do Daur 8 do do
Robert C do Son 4 do
Julia Elizth do Daur 2 do

1871 census of Lyncombe & Widcombe, Somerset (RG10/2483, folios 45/46, pages 38/39)
7 Barton Place

Joseph WHITEHOUSE Head Mar 51 Iron Moulder Somerset Bridgewater
Agnes do Wife Mar 43 do Bristol
William T do Son 21 do do do do
Robert do Son 14 Errand Boy do do
Mary do Daur 9 Scholar do do
Hannah do Daur 6 do do Bath
Joseph do Son 4 do do

By the 1881 census Joseph is a widower living in Devizes with children Hannah & Joseph plus niece Florance SAPSWORTH aged 5 born London and by the 1891 census Joseph is up in Chorlton on Medlock living with son Robert & his family - they moved about a bit didn't they!

Interestingly, Charles WHITEHOUSE born c1812 in Langport is also in the 1871 census of Lyncombe & Widcombe. He is shown as a widowed Iron Moulder living with daughter & son in law Eliza J & David BUSHNELL and their family and by the 1881 census he is living in Swindon with daughter & son in law Eliza Julia and Weston RICHENS and family.

I can't find John WHITEHOUSE with any certainty between the 1851 and 1881 census where he is in High Ham, Somerset living in the Langport Union Workhouse and shown as a widowed Pauper Iron Moulder.

This might give you a bit more background information on those who may turn out to be your William's brothers.

Janet

Census records courtesy TNA

[olliecat]

1871 census of Lyncombe & Widcombe, Somerset (RG10/2483, folios 45/46, pages 38/39)
7 Barton Place

Joseph WHITEHOUSE Head Mar 51 Iron Moulder Somerset Bridgewater
Agnes do Wife Mar 43 do Bristol
William T do Son 21 do do do do
Robert do Son 14 Errand Boy do do
Mary do Daur 9 Scholar do do
Hannah do Daur 6 do do Bath
Joseph do Son 4 do do

Checking the BathBMD, which has the following births..

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1864 WHITEHOUSE Hannah Sophia Lyncombe/Widcombe Bath MEAD
1866 WHITEHOUSE Joseph Henry Lyncombe/Widcombe Bath MEAD
1869 WHITEHOUSE Eliza Sarah Lyncombe/Widcombe Bath MEAD

www.
bathbmd.org.uk/cgi/birthind.cgi

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...it seems the maiden name of the mother is MEAD. The following marrige from Family Search fits.

name: Joseph Whitehouse
event: Marriage
event date: 01 Feb 1846
event place: Bedminster, St John, Somersetshire, England
gender: Female
marital status: Single
father: Isaac Whitehouse
spouse: Agness Mead
spouse's marital status: Single
(Family Search)

So at least we can be sure that this Joseph's father's name was Isaac. We just know right now if it is the same Isaac.

[olliecat]

Interestingly, Charles WHITEHOUSE born c1812 in Langport is also in the 1871 census of Lyncombe & Widcombe. He is shown as a widowed Iron Moulder living with daughter & son in law Eliza J & David BUSHNELL and their family and by the 1881 census he is living in Swindon with daughter & son in law Eliza Julia and Weston RICHENS and family.

In the 1851 census Charles WHITEHOUSE is married to Rebecca and is living in Clerkenwell. (HO107; Piece: 1519; Folio: 294; Page: 20)
In 1841 Charles is with Rebecca and is at St George Hanover Square, Westminster. (HO107; Piece: 732 Book/Folio: 12/5 Page: 4)

A Charles WHITEHOUSE married Rebecca KEMSLEY on 9 Jul 1838 at Southwark St Saviour. Both were of full age. Rebecca's father was called Edward, a labourer. Charles's occupation was moulder and his father names was Isaac Whitehouse, moulder

[olliecat]

A Charles WHITEHOUSE married Rebecca KEMSLEY on 9 Jul 1838 at Southwark St Saviour. Both were of full age. Rebecca's father was called Edward, a labourer. Charles's occupation was moulder and his father names was Isaac Whitehouse, moulder

The fact that Charles's daughter Eliza was born before this marriage was bugging me. Although it has bachelor for Charles on this marriage certificate, I have my doubts. In the later census, he is with his daughter Eliza Jane who was either born abt 1834 in Windsor, Berkshire or Weymouth, Dorset depending on which census one looks at.

Well, there is this baptism in Dorset...

name: Eliza Julia Whitehouse
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 1834
baptism/christening place: Melcombe-Regis, Dorset
father's name: Charles Whitehouse
mother's name: Eliza
(Family Search)

Also there is this marriage...

groom's name: Charles Ryat Whitehouse
bride's name: Eliza Dine
marriage date: 1833
marriage place: Wyke Regis, Dorset, England
Note: According to another transcription elsewhere, the middle name is RIGHT

In the 1881 census Charles WHITEHOUSE is living with daughter Eliza in Swindon, Wiltshire. There is this death that I wonder about, although it is a different registration district...

Death Cricklade Mar 1886 5A 28
WHITEHOUSE, Charles Wright
Age:74
Est birth date: 1812

Going back to the 1841 census, Charles is with Rebecca but where is his daughter? There is an Eliza J Whithouse in the 1841 census in Melcombe Regis with a 30 year Elizabeth, possibly her mum. (HO107; Piece: 295; Book: 17; Folio: 18; Page: 31)