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    Jan1954
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    I have some books that do not have a publication date anywhere on them, so how can I find out if they are still within copyright date?

    They are reference books and look as if they were published in the 1930s-1950s. But, without reading them from cover to cover in a search for clues - and we are looking at nearly 2000 pages - I do not know where to begin.

    Simple question, but I'm blowed if I know the answer!

    Therefore, any assistance is deeply appreciated. Thank you.

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    malcolm99
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    Could you post the details of 2 or 3 titles and then we could scout around for you. Author/editor, title, publisher should be enough.

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    Philippa_Harvey
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    Jan, I just used Mr Google and typed in the ISBN number, hit search.

    It came up with a number of results, and each one I looked at gave the publication date.

    Admittedly this book was published in 2010, but it was one I had handy so used it to see what happened.

    No harm trying!!

    Good luck.

    Philippa

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    Jan1954
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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolm99 View Post
    Could you post the details of 2 or 3 titles and then we could scout around for you. Author/editor, title, publisher should be enough.
    Shipping Wonders of the World edited by Clarence Winchester and published by the Fleetway House, London. This is in 2 volumes.

    I have a couple of books (The Golden Wonder Book and the Mammoth Wonder Book) that I think were published in the 1930s. Although there are no dates on these either, they belonged to my Mum when she was a child. Mum was born in 1930.

    The Shipping books seem to be in a similar style.

    Thanks.

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    Jan1954
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippa_Harvey View Post
    Jan, I just used Mr Google and typed in the ISBN number, hit search.
    There are no ISBN numbers either! (Aaaaargh!!!)

    I wonder when they became mandatory.....

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    Philippa_Harvey
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    You are very controlled, Jan - I'd be saying more than AAAAAAAAARGH!!

    I'm off to type in the title (I'll check Abe Books particularly) and see what happens.

    Watch this space - but don't hold your breath, blue is not a good complexion colour!!

    Philippa

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    malcolm99
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan1954 View Post
    There are no ISBN numbers either! (Aaaaargh!!!)
    SBN in 1966 - the International SBN came in a few years later!

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    You could also try slapping* the title into the BL catalogue
    https://explore.
    bl.uk/primo_library/libweb/action/search.do?dscnt=1&fromLogin=true&dstmp=13387109515 56&vid=BLVU1&fromLogin=true

    and see what comes up

    * slapping - technical term used by librarians

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    malcolm99
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan1954 View Post
    Mammoth Wonder Book
    The BL catalogue says published about 1935

    The Mammoth Wonder Book for Children Edited by J R Crossland and J M Parrish, etc [With plates]
    John Redgwick Crossland 1892-
    London : Odhams Press, [1935]


    Also:
    [The Golden Wonder Book for Children Edited by J R Crossland and J M Parrish, etc [With plates]]
    John Redgwick Crossland 1892-
    pp. 448. Collins' Clear-Type Press: London & Glasgow, [1943.] 1943


    And:

    Title: Shipping Wonders of the World Edited by Clarence Winchester, etc
    Author: Clarence Arthur Charles WINCHESTER
    Contributor: Frank Charles BOWEN ;
    Alfred Cecil HARDY
    Publication Details: 2 vol. pp. 1764.
    Identifier: System number 003949295
    Creation Date: 1764
    Physical Description: Amalgamated Press: London, 1936, 37. 4º.
    Shelfmark(s): General Reference Collection 08805.d.11.
    UIN: BLL01003949295


    It seems the BL catalogue should be a first port of call for you.
    Last edited by malcolm99; 03-06-2012 at 8:19 AM. Reason: added Golden Wonder & the Shipping book

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    Philippa_Harvey
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    'Shipping Wonders of the World', Volumes I and II edited by Clarence Winchester, The Fleetway House, London. This is a massive 1930's partwork with nearly 2000 pages of specialist illustrated material dealing with almost everything everywhere up to the launch of the Queen Mary.

    From a site in the UK. I forgot to get the address, but it's Oldluggers (online Academy).

    A bit closer?

    Philippa

    (Back to the search).

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