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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutley View Post
    I gave up with the teapot and hit the bottle, so my brain also refuses to acknowledge all the different names
    You always come up with splendid ideas Mutley; I guess the names can wait; now off to find a bottle as well. night night.

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    Fantastic work, olliecat . . . well done for ploughing valiantly on through all that legalese and doing such a fab transcription.

    If only they'd invented the Campaign for Plain English back then, your task would have been much easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutley View Post
    I am still trying to sort the relationships.
    I have William Rowcliffe and Elizabeth Wellbourne, the parents of Marie Elizabeth Rowcliffe (married Josias Slee).
    Marie Elizabeth was the niece of Jane Wellbourne who married Thomas Pelling (whose will we have just read).
    Richard Wellbourne and his son Richard were brother and nephew of Jane Pelling (nee Wellbourne).
    Thomas Pelling was the son of Josias Slee and Marie Elizabeth Rowcliffe and nephew of Jane Pelling.

    Josiah Slee and Thomas Pelling were the nephews of the deceased Thomas Pelling whose will was written in 1808.

    I know I will figure this out, Amanha!
    I think it works out if
    (a) Josiah Slee, who is called Thomas Pelling's nephew in the probate clause, is in fact Josias Slee, his wife's niece's husband (unless Josias is also a blood relative of the Pellings ).
    (b) when Jane Pelling says her nephew Thomas Pelling Slee she means her great-nephew.

    Jane Wellborne married Thomas Pelling the scavenger.

    Her sister Elizabeth Wellborne married William Rowcliffe, who had a daughter Maria/Marie Elizabeth Rowcliffe, who married Josias Slee and had a son Thomas Pelling Slee (and other children named in Jane's will).

    Jane also had a brother Richard Wellborne, spirit merchant of Doncaster, who had a son Richard.

    Unfortunately none of this tells us more about the Pellings and we still don't know where the Leasehold Estates were.

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    Going back to original query of Kazza's......do we all agree that probabally the death of Thomas Wagner Pelling in 1848 would appear to be correct........and that he was saved from prison by the wills of his uncle Thomas Pelling who died 1809 and his aunt Jane who died in 1833?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandiep View Post
    Going back to original query of Kazza's......do we all agree that probabally the death of Thomas Wagner Pelling in 1848 would appear to be correct........and that he was saved from prison by the wills of his uncle Thomas Pelling who died 1809 and his aunt Jane who died in 1833?
    I think so.... we have

    TP-Scavenger, ???? - 1809 (brother of John Pelling 1744-1829) married to Jane Wellbourne who died 1833
    TP-Wager, 1781 - 1848 (son of John Pelling and Mary Stevens)
    TP-Slee, 1804 - 1877 (son of Josias and Maria Elizabeth Rowcliffe) related through Jane Wellbourne

    I think, maybe?

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    I think that you have all done really well with the first part. Your'e all STARS

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    hi kazza,
    well with a lot of reading jane pelling,s will, thomas wager is,nt mentioned, so he must have received he,s £200 pound in 1809 , so why bring up jane,s will , i know she died 1832, and most of the slee family received from the will, we know thomas wager was realest
    in 1822, from kings bench prison, so i think thomas wager spent or lost he,s £200 pound up till 1821, done he,s time , i think every one disowned him, and ended up in the work house, i think he,s luck had run out. tony.p

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    Quote Originally Posted by antony1958 View Post
    hi kazza,
    well with a lot of reading jane pelling,s will, thomas wager is,nt mentioned, so he must have received he,s £200 pound in 1809 , so why bring up jane,s will , i know she died 1832, and most of the slee family received from the will, we know thomas wager was realest
    in 1822, from kings bench prison, so i think thomas wager spent or lost he,s £200 pound up till 1821, done he,s time , i think every one disowned him, and ended up in the work house, i think he,s luck had run out. tony.p
    Sounds about right.

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    hi kazza, i would love to read thomas wager court case but im not sure if the paper,s go back to1820, and just one more thing we know he,s uncle thomas pelling was a scavenger, to me that,s like a rag & bone man , if so how could he have so many houses, & leaving a nice few quid in he,s will, let me no what you think,
    thank, tony .p

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