Joshua or George McDonald

[Geirgg]

Hi,

I am trying to find out about my wife and my mother-in-laws family, and I am really stuck. We have found a George McDonald that gets married to a Catharine Connell in Liverpool in 1865. He is born abt 1839 in ireland. His father is a Joshua McDonald profession weaver. Joshua is marked as deceased in 1865. Can anyone shed a light on any of this? I have looked in the english censuses, but I can't seem to find my Joshua there. I gather he never left Ireland. How can I find them in Ireland?

Thanks
Geir

[Jan1954]

Hello Geir - welcome to Brit-Gen,

You may find this to be a help in tracing your Irish ancestors.

[Mutley]

Welcome to the forum.

Do you have your George in any of the English census? I cannot seem to find him and Catherine in the Liverpool area
Can you give us the references please?

I'd like to get a 'feel' for George before I go 'a hunting' for Joshua.

[christanel]

RG10 Piece 3772 Folio 41 Page 37 (TNA copyright)
Lower ? Street 3 House 6 Court Liverpool
George MacDonald 32 labourer Ireland
Catherine 24 Ireland
Anna 5 L/pool
Joshua 3 months L/pool

Geirgg has another thread asking about Catherine's ancestors. I can't see Catherine or George in 1861 in England.

[Mutley]

RG10 Piece 3772 Folio 41 Page 37 (TNA copyright)
Lower ? Street 3 House 6 Court Liverpool
George MacDonald 32 labourer Ireland
Catherine 24 Ireland
Anna 5 L/pool
Joshua 3 months L/pool

Geirgg has another thread asking about Catherine's ancestors. I can't see Catherine or George in 1861 in England.

Thanks christanel.
Geirgg's other thread is
http://www.british-genealogy.com/for...ht=#post518687
Both threads can run separately as they are about a maternal and paternal line but some of the replies, later in time may 'marry' up.

I cannot find them in 1861 either.

[christanel]

Thanks for the link Mutley.
I can't find George, Catherine, Joshua or Ann* in 1881 either as yet.

[christanel]

1881 RG11/3594/78/44
Penrhyn Street (for previous house) then this 1, Ct 17, Liverpool
James Welsh head 30 Boiler maker L/pool
Susan Wife 29 L/pool
James son 9 scholar L/pool
George Mc Donald Lodger Widower 50 Dock labourer Ireland
Ann dau 15 L/pool
Joshua son 11 scholar L/pool
George son 4 scholar L/Pool

I have searched a few Irish resources for a Joshua M*cDonald, George's father but no luck so far with him or George in Ireland.

[christanel]

Having looked at the public tree on ancestry I think geirgg has all the census information needed.

There is a letter, open for public viewing, re a request for a yearly property? allowance of 5 pounds and 5 shillings pa.
This was written in 1847 by a third party and states George was "thought" to be of full age so would make his birth date c1836 not c1839 as on the census 1871. But in 1881 George is age 50 so birth c1831.

It also says that both his mother and father were thought to be protestant and his mother was remarried to a Sgt Kane of Dublin Militia Staff. Thought these details may help the search. I have taken the liberty of posting as they are on a public tree on ancestry but if geir wishes a mod can remove my post.

[Geirgg]

Hi, thanks for showing interest! I have George in the 1871 census from Liverpool. He is married to Catherine, and they have two children (Ann and Joshua). The reference on the side (I guess that is what you are asking for) says RG10/3772. He is also in the 1881 census, and have three children, but now he is a widower.

Thank you very much
Geir

[Geirgg]

Hi,

I think the correct birth is 1839, since on the marriage cerificate that I purchased he is 26 in 1865 (I think his age must be wrong in the 1881 census). It is also a catholic wedding, so I am not sure the George you have found is my George.


Thanks
Geir