1861-71 census look-up Please

[terrysfamily]

Trying to find George on earlier census than 1881.

This is what I have so far. Most of it is pure speculation. I hope someone will either tell me it's utter twaddle or help confirm what I've found.

1881
George Rogers 1852 Ag Labourer, Eye, Herefordshire

1901
George Rogers 1852. Gen Lab. Ashton, Hereford

Ashton and Eye are only just over a mile apart.

Births Jun 1852 ROGERS George Leominster 6a 474

This is the only George Rogers registered in Leominster in 1852. There is another George Rogers registered Births Sep 1853 Leominster 6a 434 but usually with censuses they estimate year of birth from age when the census is taken and I've found that if a child's birthday fell after the census they tend to say that they were born a year later than they actually did. Therefore, the George born in 1853 would actually have a year of birth of 1854.

Leominster Registration District covers Eye, Moreton & Ashton

Familysearch has;

George Rogers, Male
baptism/christening date:25 Apr 1852, Eye, Herefordshire
Father: John Rogers, Mother: Mary
indexing project (batch) number:J13884-2, source film number:1040010

There are 3 other children baptised in Eye to a John and Mary around this time.

John William Rogers, Male
baptism/christening date:06 Jun 1858, Eye, Herefordshire
Father: John Rogers, Mother: Mary
indexing project (batch) number:J13884-2, source film number:1040010

Births Jun 1858 Rogers John William Leominster 6a 479

Sarah Jane Rogers, Female
baptism/christening date:07 Jun 1863, Eye, Herefordshire
Father: John Rogers, Mother: Mary
indexing project (batch) number:K13884-2, source film number:1040010

Births Jun 1863 ROGERS Sarah Jane Leominster 6a 533

Adeline Rogers, Female
gender: Female
baptism/christening date:22 Oct 1865, Eye, Herefordshire
Father: John Rogers, Mother: Mary
indexing project (batch) number:K13884-2, source film number:1040010

Births Dec 1865 Rogers Adeline Leominster 6a 488

George married Martha Millward in Cleobury Mortimer on 21 Nov 1880.

Their first child's name was Edith Adeline Gertrude Rogers

Did he name his daughter after his sister Adeline (maybe)

Any help appreciated.

Terry

[Peter Goodey]

George married Martha Millward in Cleobury Mortimer on 21 Nov 1880.

What father's name was shown on the marriage certificate?

[terrysfamily]

Hi Peter, The fathers name for George's marriage is John. Marthas father is Edward but also known as Edmund.

Sorry, trying to edit at the same time as my internet is having stability problems. Keeps dropping out.

Terry

[Peter Goodey]

Marriages Sep 1851
ROGERS John Leominster 26 285
Warburton Mary Leominster 26 285

1861 census: The National Archives; RG 9/1833 f 42 p 5

1871 census: ibid; RG 10/2718 f 43 p 6 (John has now taken up with someone else)

1871 census: ibid; RG 10/3040 f 106 p 10 (George is working elsewhere)

[terrysfamily]

Thank you very much Peter. That's a great help.

Terry

[terrysfamily]

Hi Peter, what is "ibid"?

If i've done this right, the family have been transcribed as Magers on the FMP 1861 census.

Terry

[Peter Goodey]

Hi Peter, what is "ibid"?

The same place. The term is used in references which refer to the same place (ie The National Archives) as the previous reference.

[Peter Goodey]

the family have been transcribed as Magers on the FMP 1861 census.

I suppose it could be read that way. The family are in the township of Ashton in the parish of Eye.

[terrysfamily]

Ah, Thank you. That's twice this week I've been caught out with acronyms.

At work the bosses were assessing the running of each others departments. One asked me if I knew what the K.P.I. were. So I asked him if he knew what a T.L.A. was he said no. I asked what K.P.I. stood for to which he replied Key Point Indicators. Ah, I said, yes they're on the board over there. (Still deducted 5 points from our department - rotter) I told him that T.L.A. stood for Three Letter Acronym.

He didn't know what that meant. I think the higher you go up the ladder the further you get from your brains.

He went back to my boss and I found out later he had asked if I was on drugs or something hahahaha

[Peter Goodey]

Ibid is actually an abbreviation of the Latin word ibidem, not an acronym.

And I'm afraid I can't stop myself saying that your example KPI is an abbreviation, not an acronym. An acronym is an abbreviation that can be pronounced as if it were a word, such as NATO or AIDS.