Harrietts maiden name

[olliepolly]

i didnt realise about the Farnworth Bolton thing maybe thats why i cant find one of the other family members birth aswell i thought Farnworth and Widnes were in Liverpool Lancashire??thats what it says on census? and that there was another Farnworth in Bolton?
thanks for the info everyone

[Mona]

There are two Farnworth in Lancashire. Farnworth village, chapelry, near Widnes in Prescot district, and Farnworth in Deane, Bolton. Both are described on Genuki. Here we are talking about the Widnes one, if we look at the census.

ps. but perhaps the sub-district for this Farnworth on LancsBMd should be Widnes, registers at Halton.

[olliepolly]

so it is farnworth lancashire? thank you

[Mona]

It is very confusing. As an example there is a birth of Eleanor Elizabeth Beesley in 1859, GRO district Prescot. On LancsBMD it is Widnes, registers at Halton. Her baptism on family search shows Farnworth (near Prescot) Lancashire. Her parents are William Beesley and Mary.
It would be strange that all four were not registered!!!! Perhaps you can ask for a search at the local office, or ask the GRO to find the birth of one of the children, giving them a date range and father's name. As Peter suggested.

[valg]

Lancashire BMD has this birth as sub-district St Helens.

If the children were born and registered in Farnworth, the registration district should be Bolton.
Farnworth was a sub-district of Bolton from 1837 until 1935.

The family is on census at Farnworth and Widnes, so presumably the children were born in the same district which is Prescot Registration..according to the census info. RG 9; Piece: 2742; Folio: 42; Page: 13


There is a marriage
John Beesley-Manchester-1847- one of the brides is a Harriet Jane Teale...

Maybe:

William Beesley-Prescot-March 1857
Elizabeth Beesley-Prescot-Dec 1858

[Mona]

John Beesley-Manchester-1847- one of the brides is a Harriet Jane Teale...

Harriet Teale married Samuel Lomas.... see LancashireBMD

[Mona]

To confuse matters, there are two Elizabeth BEESLEYs age 2 in 1861 census. The other one must be the Dec 1858 birth, St. Helens on LancsBMD. ...Prescot, Eccleston, St Helens, parents William and Margaret.
So either all four children (John and Harriets?) were not registered or registered under another surname. If they were born in Farnworth nr Prescot, they should be registered in Widnes, Halton (lancashire bmd), for which the coverage seems to be complete.

[Lizzy9]

Harriet as widow in 1881 census in west derby living with daughter Jane who is married to William Williams

Do you have Jane's marriage cert? I haven't found a marriage for Jane Beesley to William Williams. The marriage could be key if Jane didn't marry using the name Beesley.

[Mona]

Jane BEASLEY married William Samuel WILLIAMS, St. Elphin, Warrington, Cheshire. Dec qtr, 1875 (combination of info from GRO and CheshireBMD)

[RonOne]

If the children were born and registered in Farnworth, the registration district should be Bolton.
Farnworth was a sub-district of Bolton from 1837 until 1935.

The family is on census at Farnworth and Widnes, so presumably the children were born in the same district which is Prescot Registration..according to the census info. RG 9; Piece: 2742; Folio: 42; Page: 13

Sorry, off to the naughty step I go

The correct Farnworth: https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/FarnworthW/