Auntie in Australia Sarah A Webster

[RobinC]

I've found a Miles Webster on the 1881 census who has a daughter named Sarah A, however, Miles is married to a Sarah and Sarah A is recorded as being born in 1868.

Class: RG11; Piece: 4629; Folio: 98; Page: 18

Census reference copyright of TNA

[judyg]

Thank you to all who have replied to my query. The name Marshall looks good as it was the maiden name of my Grandmother. I had assumed originally that my father had actually met Sarah A Webster, but it could be that they were pen friends. So now looking for the marriage of Emma Marshall and Miles Webster or Emma Marshall in England prior to 1870's. Thank you so much to all who have replied.

According to the marriage details of Emma Marshall and Miles Webster in 1874 Emma was from Dublin and Miles from Derbyshire.

Emma's death record shows her to be the daughter of Matthew Marshall and Sarah Taylor.

Miles' death record shows him to be the son of Fran(cis?) Webster and Elizabeth Osborne

All these events occurred in Victoria.

Cheers
Judyg

[judyg]

I don’t agree with the Ellison/ Marshall pairing.

Doing a search for a marriage for George Ellison around 1894 (calculated from 1911 census) there is only one marriage that fits.

1894 Sheffield Reg Dist. Vol 9c pg 736 to Frances Guirdham.

Doing a marriage search for a Marshall/ George Ellison pairing brings a nil result

Again the 1911 and 1901 Census shows Frances as born in Whitwell Derbyshire and the 1881 Census has Frances Guirdham born 1872 Whitwell with her family which includes siblings Sarah and Bernard.
(RG11 piece 4662 Folio 109 Page 7)
Census reference copyright of TNA

Cheers
Judyg

[valg]

I don’t agree with the Ellison/ Marshall pairing.

Doing a search for a marriage for George Ellison around 1894 (calculated from 1911 census) there is only one marriage that fits.

1894 Sheffield Reg Dist. Vol 9c pg 736 to Frances Guirdham.

Doing a marriage search for a Marshall/ George Ellison pairing brings a nil result

Again the 1911 and 1901 Census shows Frances as born in Whitwell Derbyshire and the 1881 Census has Frances Guirdham born 1872 Whitwell with her family which includes siblings Sarah and Bernard.
(RG11 piece 4662 Folio 109 Page 7)
Census reference copyright of TNA

Cheers
Judyg

Only marriage I can find for a Miles Webster is 1865 Derbyshire, which fits with his residence on 71 census but neither bride is a Sarah as noted on census record...he appears to be the only Miles Webster on census and was born 1839 in Chesterfield,, so not sure where Sarah or Emma come into play.

[valg]

I don’t agree with the Ellison/ Marshall pairing.

Doing a search for a marriage for George Ellison around 1894 (calculated from 1911 census) there is only one marriage that fits.

1894 Sheffield Reg Dist. Vol 9c pg 736 to Frances Guirdham.

Doing a marriage search for a Marshall/ George Ellison pairing brings a nil result

Again the 1911 and 1901 Census shows Frances as born in Whitwell Derbyshire and the 1881 Census has Frances Guirdham born 1872 Whitwell with her family which includes siblings Sarah and Bernard.
(RG11 piece 4662 Folio 109 Page 7)
Census reference copyright of TNA

Cheers
Judyg

That would be the correct marriage for your grandparents, the Marshall actually comes in from Frances mother Harriet
William Guirdham - Harriet Marshall DEc 1862 Worksop 7b 67.
Harriet had a sister Sarah brn 1875

[valg]

That would be the correct marriage for your grandparents, the Marshall actually comes in from Frances mother Harriet
William Guirdham - Harriet Marshall DEc 1862 Worksop 7b 67.
Harriet had a sister Sarah brn 1875

1891 census lists Sarah as Sarah A Guirdam
THis Sarah appears to have married Frederick Gunhill in Shefield in 1893 they are on census up to 1911.
Do you know when Sarah came to Australia, always the chance she was widowed and remarried a Webster??

[keni]

Hi Judy,
Thank you so much for your input. You are right in what you say re Frances Guirdham and George Ellison - they were my grandparents. Frances maiden name was Marshall (in fact a Carrie Marshall is on the 1901 census as visiting them in Sheffield). Frances' mother Harriet apparently had a sister Sarah, so this is worth investigating, and will let you know result.

[judyg]

Hi Judy,
Frances maiden name was Marshall (in fact a Carrie Marshall is on the 1901 census as visiting them in Sheffield).


Frances' mother Harriet apparently had a sister Sarah, so this is worth investigating, and will let you know result.

Hi Keni

You seem to be getting somewhat confused. Frances' maiden name was Guirdham not Marshall.

Frances had a sister Sarah not Harriet

Harriet's maiden name was Marshall.

Harriet had a sister according to the 1851 census (RG107 Piece 2122 Folio 530 Pg 31) named Emma who was born in Dublin c1830.

This Emma is probably the one who married Miles Webster in Victoria. Only purchasing the marriage certificate will tell you for certain.

Purchasing the death certificate for Sarah Webster may also clarify things

Cheers
Judyg

[keni]

Hi Judy,
That was a brilliant find in the Argus, and it looks impressive! I think the Miles Webster, Emma Marshall connection looks good too, because as you say Marshall was the Maiden name of my Grandmother's Mother (My slip before in calling Marshall the maiden name of my Grandmother - she was of course Frances Guirdham). Haven't found any more re Miles and Emma - the Marshalls came from Whitwell in Derby but no luck there yet - thank you so much for your help.

[keni]

Thanks for trying Robin, but I think it likely Miles was in Oz by 1881
regards

Ken