JOHN HASSELL marriage certificate

[dchass]

Is this George?

Baptism of ? HASSELL at St. George Stamford on 31 Mar 1799
(Note: the first name is completely obscured due to damage at the edge of the page.)
www.
lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=543976&iid=290009

Just so you know the process I used to find Joseph's baptism - I first checked the baptism date on Family Search, which was the 05 Jan 1809 at St Swithin. Since Mary's 1806 baptism is on image #45 I browsed through subsequent images until I reached image #50, which lists the baptisms for 1809. Knowing in advance an exact date does make it easier, otherwise you have to look through the records one image at a time.

Yes, this George, my direct ancestor.
Thank you for describing the process.
This will help me significantly.

[dchass]

For the general interest of those searching in Essex, (remotely):

In my case, incl postage to Australia
- to buy one CD - 13 pounds (records for one parish only, incl postage)
- to purchase photocopies - 0.55 pounds/A4 page + 2 pounds postage assuming the exact reference is known
- to register and view online - 4.17 pounds/day or 12.50 pounds/wk
- or FamilySearch can generally make film records available at a local Latterday Saints library - for approx $US7

Here is the Essex Records Office email to me which was helpful:

"Dear Mr Hassell,

We can photocopy the marriage from the microform of the parish records; this will involve the cost of the copy and the cost of sending it ‘international signed for’ post.

However the marriages for St Nicholas have been digitised and are available on pay to view and you may like to copy the marriage yourself whilst searching for their parents and their baptisms.

The Church of England parishes for Colchester have been digitised and the following years are available on Ancestors for St Nicholas;
Baptisms 1541 – 1952
Marriages 1541-1668 & 1677 – 1953
Burials 1541-1639 & 1658-1889

Please advise if you wish us to go ahead with the photocopy, I attach a copying form which has to be signed and returned if this is the case."

olliecat of this forum has been instrumental in assisting me to get to this point.
Registering and viewing online would appear to provide the most immediate option with the widest access to records.

David

[dchass]

Hi again David.


Do let us know when you have the marriage information.

Hi olliecat. I have found and copied the marriage certificate on SEAX.
John Hassell was of this parish.
Banns were published over the preceding 3 weeks, but I see banns registers did not commence til 1824 unfortunately.
J Osborn and Ann Bott were in presence at the signatures.
I have searched these people on FamilySearch and Ancestry without luck, although a John Osborn married a Mary Eldred 16 years earlier at Great Bardfield Essex, but, as she was listed as a spinster in the Hassell marriage, this is probably coincidence.

Do you think there are any other actions or searches I could take?

David

[olliecat]

Although John HASSALL may have been 'of the parish' at the time of the marriage it does not mean he was born or baptised there.

Checking St Nicholas baptisms and marriages on Family Search, there doesn't appear to be any HASSELL baptisms for the relevant time period or any other HASSAL or ELDRED marriages in that parish.
(Note: batch numbers you can use on Family Search to look specifially at St Nicholas can found here...
http://
freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyEssex.htm)

Checking for baptisms and marriages in Essex in general, nothing in particular stands out. There was an earlier marriage between a John Hassel and Mary Felton in 1737 at Saint Mary The Virgin At The Walls,​ Colchester. No telling at the moment if this is a relation or not. Also I saw a baptism for a Mary ELDRED on 12 Nov 1766 at St Mary Magdalene, Chelmsford (mother Amy), but it may not be your Mary. (Source FreeREG)

Do you have any idea when either of them was born? Have you found burial records for them? I noticed that a couple of their sons ended up marrying and living in Leicestershire (assuming I have found the correct sons in the census,) so do you know if the parents also ended up in Leicestershire.

[olliecat]

As an aside, at some point it may be worth searching for an apprenticeship record for John. I noticed a John HALL was apprenticed to a John HASSALL in 1797[9?] at Stamford in Lincolnshire, cabinet maker. Not absolutely certain of the last digit of the date; it looks like the number 7 has been written over the number 9.
You will find this record is on Ancestry.

[dchass]

Thank you again Olliecat for your continued assistance.

Do you have any idea when either of them was born? Have you found burial records for them?

Unfortunately no to both questions despite delving for many hours on Family Search and Ancestry.

I noticed that a couple of their sons ended up marrying and living in Leicestershire (assuming I have found the correct sons in the census,) so do you know if the parents also ended up in Leicestershire.

John and Mary were obviously in Colchester for the marriage in 1792.
It seems they had children in Lincoln at least between 1797 and 1808.
And several of the children were married and buried in Leicester.
George b1799 my ancestor and I think some of his cousins were in the shoe trade in Leicester for many years and ran a shoe business called Hassell and Bradshaw.
But I cannot see John or Mary in any census in these counties.
Although a John Hazel b1766 Essex (approx correct age) was a visitor in Wivenhoe, Essex for the 1841 census!
And family letters indicate Mary was in a Witham, Essex almshouse in c1830.

Not much help I'm afraid, but I'm desperate to advance this!

[dchass]

As an aside, at some point it may be worth searching for an apprenticeship record for John. I noticed a John HALL was apprenticed to a John HASSALL in 1797[9?] at Stamford in Lincolnshire, cabinet maker.
You will find this record is on Ancestry.

Thank you, I do appreciate your help. I will follow up.

[dchass]

Although a John Hazel b1766 Essex (approx correct age) was a visitor in Wivenhoe, Essex for the 1841 census!

No, not a visitor on checking. But he is shown as a carpenter, similar to cabinet maker as you found for him in Stamford.
How do I search apprenticeships?

[Jan1954]

How do I search apprenticeships?

Start with this research guide, followed by this one.

[olliecat]

How do I search apprenticeships?

Jan has given you useful research guides.

Thought I should mention this apprentice indenture record --> John HASSALL in 1783, apprenticed to Ann HORNER of Lincoln the Bail, Lincoln. Joiner.
(Source: Board of Stamps: Apprenticeship Books, Series IR 1. The National Archives of the UK)

You can view this record at the National Archives or on Ancestry. The only further info you will get on this paricular record is the exact date of the indenture.