William Ellison or Elliston

[janbooth]

For information,

The actual marriage register image (via Ancestry) shows that William ELLISTON, of this parish, bachelor married Anne HOBDAY, of this parish, spinster at Coughton on 16 October 1823. Both made their mark and the witnesses were Thomans THOMANS, who signed, and Mary HOBDAY who made her mark - perhaps a sister of Anne?

Janet

[janbooth]

The Burial Register of Great Alne, Warwickshire (via Ancestry) shows the following burials between 1840 & 1851:

16 April 1843 George ELLISON, aged 2 weeks
23 June 1845 William ELLISON, aged 46

The Marriage Register shows:

16 April 1849 James WALLIN, full age, Labourer, Widower, Aston Cantlow, father James WALLIN, Farmer & Anne ELLISON, full age, Widow, Great Alne, father Joseph HOBDAY, Labourer. James signed and Anne made her mark. I'm afraid I can't make out the names of the witnesses with any certainty - too indistinct.

Great Alne comes within Alcester registration district but I can't find an appropriate death registration. However, because it is pretty early on in registration terms, it could be that his death was not registered.

Please don't completely disregard the William ELLISON baptised in Grendon in 1799. He does not appear to have died or married in Grendon and his parents John & Elizabeth seem to have had one other child there, Mary baptised in 1798 and buried in 1799, and then also seem to have disappeared from Grendon. In fact so far I have not found a marriage for John & Elizabeth nor any burials for them.

Janet

[keni]

Thank you so much for all the help and info given by you all.
Hi Janet,
Thank you so much for all your help . I have the 2nd Marriage certificate for Anne Ellison (nee Hobday) to Thomas Wallen or Wallin. The witnesses are James Smith and Charlotte Baggott or Baggett.

Anne came from Inkberrow Worcs., and when I researched a 10 mile radius for William found 16 Ellisons in Church Lench, and 2 in Rous Lench hence my reticence to look further afield. Since William had worked on the Coughton Estate (from the Coughton register) along with Anne's father made me think he was local, but maybe the Throckmorton's who owned the estate had a place at Grendon or elsewhere and William moved with them before marriage.
I shall check out all suggestions given by you and others and let you know but in the meantime wish to thank you ALL again for all your help
Best Wishes

Ken Ellison

[Ken_R]

I think I have found the Death. William Hellison, Alcester, Q2, 1845. 16, 120.

For any other queries, I have local knowledge of the area and of the boundaries.

[Ken_R]

WILLIAM ELLISON
Christening: 24 NOV 1799 Grendon, Warwick
Father: JOHN ELLISON Mother: ELIZABETH
Batch P016731

I know the 1841 census says not born in county but it is often wrong as most people could neither read nor write.

Whilst Grendon may indeed be in Warwickshire, it is only separated from Leics by a small stream and the River Anker.

See http://www.british-history.ac.uk/rep...rquery=Grendon

Easily possible for the family (or the Birth) to be t'other side of the River? But the Bap to be in the local/nearest Church.

However, Grendon to Coughton, mmm, in those days would have been a bit of a trek to say the least unless, as has been suggested, the Throckmorton family had other land over that way.

[janbooth]

Great spot, Ken! It never ceases to amaze me how far some families did actually travel even as far back as the 17th century. Good luck with the rest of your research and do let us know how you get on.

Janet

[keni]

Thank you Ken-R - you are quite correct - the death cert arrived today and it is indeed William Ellison of Great Alne. But even if I obtain the William Ellison birth cert of Grendon Warwick - how could I prove it is William of Great Alne?
Thanks for all your help

Ken Ellison

[keni]

Thanks Jan - have found the death cert as William Hellison thanks to Ken-R but even if I get the birth cert of William Ellison of Grendon how do I prove it is my William Ellison?
regards

Ken Ellison

[Ken_R]

- how could I prove it is William of Great Alne?
Thanks for all your help

I can't suggest an easy answer. You could try seeing if Coughton Court has a curator who may be able to check records. I say Coughton because of the marriage already mentioned. Similarly, he could have been employed at Ragley Hall nearby. The only other 'big house' that I can think of is Wootton Hall, but that has long since been flats and offices and was once owned (from memory) by someone notorious regarding Time Share dealings. There is a slim chance that any records from there could have been passed to a Local Records Office for safekeeping. Perhaps Warwick?

Ken.

[keni]

Thanks Ken,
Some years ago I cxhecked the Coughton Register, and William Ellison did some work ther on 22 Feb 1830 - he was paid £3-13-6. His father in law Joseph Hobday also worked for 26 days and was paid £2-12-0 on 11 May 1829. As Joseph, and William's wife came from Inkberrow, I rather fancy Church Lench as the birth place of William - there are many Ellisons there -but actual proof is another thing!