Ok folks I have been rummaging around the archives again and this is a potential ancestor will for Thomas Hollins (actually I think it is an admin but there you go) but I am having trouble reading it (ever the way with these early wills) so if any of you 17th century scribble and latin buffs want to give it a go I would be very grateful.
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Thread: 1669 Will translation help pt1
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03-02-2012, 7:59 AM #1
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1669 Will translation help pt1
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03-02-2012, 8:00 AM #2
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incidently I think the word at the start is Carswall and early form of Caverswall
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03-02-2012, 9:40 AM #3CoromandelGuest
OK I'll have a bash at it, but my Latin is v. rusty so I'm sure others will come along with their red pens.
Carswell 15o Octobris 69o
Fuit Ad[ministrat]io bonorum quae fu[er]unt Thom... Hollins nuper paro[chi]ae de dibrerene(??) Ellen... Hollins vid[ua] et Relict d[ict]i def[uncti] ob. dict[a] Ellena Hollins de Newpla..feilds paro[chi]ae de dilberne(?) in Com[itatu] Staff et Will..us Adderly de Ched..ll gen[erosus]
Jurat dict[a] Ellena coram me
Johan: Burtinshaw Deput....
Which might be translated as something like this:
Carswell, 15th October '69
Administration was made of the goods which were of Thomas Hollins late of the parish of Dibrerene(?) to Ellen Hollins widow and relict of the said deceased. Obligation(?): the said Ellen Hollins of Newpla..feilds in the parish of Dilberne(?) in the County of Staffordshire and William Adderly of Ched...ll gentleman
The said Ellen was sworn before me
John Burtinshaw, deputy
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03-02-2012, 10:04 AM #4
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Perhaps ...
the parish of Dilhorne, though it does seem to be written Dilborne the second time.
Ellen is of New place feilds
William Adderly of Chedull gen is perhaps William Adderly of Cheadle, gentleman
(Cheadle is about 3 miles east of Dilhorne)
Presumably you're OK with the accounts on the right-hand side? How wonderful to have a list of local names!Last edited by Kerrywood; 03-02-2012 at 10:08 AM. Reason: added a bit
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03-02-2012, 2:07 PM #5CoromandelGuest
Thanks for helping out with the place names, Kerrywood. And for pointing out that there was a right-hand page. I didn't scroll across far enough to see it!
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thanks for your help folks. It is Dilhorne. I just have to see if the names match up now.
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03-02-2012, 4:56 PM #7
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Here is the second part of the will. A translation would be nice but this one is a bit of fun. A list of all his worldly goods.
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03-02-2012, 4:58 PM #8
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Actually the bit after Thomas Hollins would be useful I think it refers to his actual home.
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03-02-2012, 5:36 PM #9CoromandelGuest
May the 13th 1669
A true and perfect Inuentorie of all the goodes and cattell of
Thomas Hollines deseased late of newplace(?)feeldes in the
parish of dilhorne and County of Stafford husbandman taken
by us whose names are heere unto subcribed
Imprimis three Cowes and three Calves
Item two twinterds and two stirkes [twinter = two-year old animal; stirk = young bullock or heifer]
Item two Mares
Item fifteene sheepe
Item one cart one plwe one harrow and all other husbandrieware
Item one young swine
Item brase and peauter
Item one Cubart two Joyned bedds three pare of bedstokes
Item one long table and one forme be longing to it
Item three Coferes one chest and two boxes
Item Cheares stooules Coupreware and all other wodden ware in the house
Item three featherbedds three chafbedes boulsters and pillowes with blanketes and Coverlidds belonging to them
Item 12 pare of sheetes with all other napreware
Item one Yron (c?)ettle one Yron pot one Backstone one spit one pare of Cobertes one grate fire shouell and tongues and apare of potrackes
Item one win[n]owing sheete six sakes and bages
Item meale and other prouision in the house
Heay in the Barne
Item his waring aparill and Money in his purse
Item all other thinges unseene and forgotten
Thomas Collier
Robert Martin
Robert Bullock his R marke
[I have not copied the individual values; they add up to £65-1s.-0d. but £25-15s.-0 of 'debts oweing by the Testator' are deducted from the grand total to give £39-6-0]
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03-02-2012, 5:44 PM #10
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Thank you very much a better picture of a house hold at that time could hardly be had. Sounds pretty well off by the standards of the time.
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