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    A sibling of Karl Oskar was - like his brother also a mariner.

    He came to England and in 1868 [3rd q.] married a Cornish lass - Mary Elvins Furse. Their 1st born - 1869 [1st q,] - was named Charles Henry.

    The 1871 census has Mary as married [no spouse in house] living with her son. Adolf had recently been to Cornwall as Mary was pregnant. In 3rd q, 1871 she gave birth to a daughter - named Frederica Wilhelmina.

    Adolf made another visit to Cornwall in 1873 and in 2nd q. 1874 Mary gave birth to another daughter - named Mary.

    Sadly for the mother, both girls died - Frederica in 1875 and Mary in 1877.

    The 1881 census has Mary along with Charles still claiming to be married and living with her widowed mother.

    I cannot find Mary or Charles in the 1891 census.

    In 1894 Charles marries Sarah Mary Brock in Farnham and in 1895 they have a daughter named Frederica Mary. Some time thereafter they move to Devon and take up residence in Stokenteighnhead where Charles is a Boat Builder. This is where they are and his mother is now with family - 1901 census. She is described as a widow.Charles dies shortly after the census.

    Mary dies in Cornwall in 1918.

    Was she really a widow or did Adolf, like his brother, Karl Oskar, perform a runner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Rowledge View Post
    A sibling of Karl Oskar was - like his brother also a mariner.

    He came to England and in 1868 [3rd q.] married a Cornish lass - Mary Elvins Furse. Their 1st born - 1869 [1st q,] - was named Charles Henry.

    The 1871 census has Mary as married [no spouse in house] living with her son. Adolf had recently been to Cornwall as Mary was pregnant. In 3rd q, 1871 she gave birth to a daughter - named Frederica Wilhelmina.

    Adolf made another visit to Cornwall in 1873 and in 2nd q. 1874 Mary gave birth to another daughter - named Mary.

    Sadly for the mother, both girls died - Frederica in 1875 and Mary in 1877.

    The 1881 census has Mary along with Charles still claiming to be married and living with her widowed mother.

    I cannot find Mary or Charles in the 1891 census.

    In 1894 Charles marries Sarah Mary Brock in Farnham and in 1895 they have a daughter named Frederica Mary. Some time thereafter they move to Devon and take up residence in Stokenteighnhead where Charles is a Boat Builder. This is where they are and his mother is now with family - 1901 census. She is described as a widow.Charles dies shortly after the census.

    Mary dies in Cornwall in 1918.

    Was she really a widow or did Adolf, like his brother, Karl Oskar, perform a runner?

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    1891 census-Mary E Ahlstadt-Widow-servant-age 40-brn Mevagissey Cornwall
    7 St Michaels terrace Plymouth..
    RG14-Piece 1736-Folio-86-pg2

    Charles widow Sarah Mary appears to have remarried in 1903 to Josiah Elliot (brn 1879 Exeter) they are on the 1911 census with 3 children.
    12 Toronto RD Exeter
    Cant seem to locate Mary in 1911?

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    This could be Charles in 1891 at RG12/1823/18/30

    Charles B ALSTRETT, Boot Salesman, b. 1869 Mevagissey - a boarder at East Hill, St. Austell, Cornwall in the household of Thomas and Jane TREMELLING.

    (record held by TNA, Crown Copyright)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Rowledge View Post
    A sibling of Karl Oskar was - like his brother also a mariner.

    He came to England and in 1868 [3rd q.] married a Cornish lass - Mary Elvins Furse. Their 1st born - 1869 [1st q,] - was named Charles Henry.

    The 1871 census has Mary as married [no spouse in house] living with her son. Adolf had recently been to Cornwall as Mary was pregnant. In 3rd q, 1871 she gave birth to a daughter - named Frederica Wilhelmina.

    Adolf made another visit to Cornwall in 1873 and in 2nd q. 1874 Mary gave birth to another daughter - named Mary.

    Sadly for the mother, both girls died - Frederica in 1875 and Mary in 1877.

    The 1881 census has Mary along with Charles still claiming to be married and living with her widowed mother.

    I cannot find Mary or Charles in the 1891 census.

    In 1894 Charles marries Sarah Mary Brock in Farnham and in 1895 they have a daughter named Frederica Mary. Some time thereafter they move to Devon and take up residence in Stokenteighnhead where Charles is a Boat Builder. This is where they are and his mother is now with family - 1901 census. She is described as a widow.Charles dies shortly after the census.

    Mary dies in Cornwall in 1918.

    Was she really a widow or did Adolf, like his brother, Karl Oskar, perform a runner?

    Colin
    Perhaps Adolf died at sea? Public Records Office at Kew may be of assistance as it holds such records..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellylegs View Post
    This could be Charles in 1891 at RG12/1823/18/30

    Charles B ALSTRETT, Boot Salesman, b. 1869 Mevagissey - a boarder at East Hill, St. Austell, Cornwall in the household of Thomas and Jane TREMELLING.

    (record held by TNA, Crown Copyright)
    Yes, this looks correct. The occupation though is somewhat different - Boot Salesman - from that which I felt was the occupation in 1901. Rather than being a Boat Builder, could he have just been working for a Boat Builder? The village in Devon from what I have seen from a 'visit' by Google would have supported such a trade.

    Do any records exist of such businesses in that area?

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    Colin, I think the occupation in 1901 is a boot maker, not a boat builder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellylegs View Post
    Colin, I think the occupation in 1901 is a boot maker, not a boat builder.
    I agree - must have had one too many 'wobbly-pops' that day when I noted the the occupation.

    Sorry for the confusion

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    Quote Originally Posted by valg View Post
    1891 census-Mary E Ahlstadt-Widow-servant-age 40-brn Mevagissey Cornwall
    7 St Michaels terrace Plymouth..
    RG14-Piece 1736-Folio-86-pg2
    While the age is wrong - 40 instead of 50 - this may be correct.

    I'll look into this further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Rowledge View Post

    While the age is wrong - 40 instead of 50 - this may be correct.

    I'll look into this further.
    I am satisfied that she was born in the Oct.-Dec. q. 1840 vol. 9 page 25. She was registered as an un-named female with the surname Furse. Her parents married around the same time as her birth occurred.

    The family is on the 1841 census living on Church Street, Mevagissey and her father was a Labourer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valg View Post
    Perhaps Adolf died at sea? Public Records Office at Kew may be of assistance as it holds such records..
    Thanks valg.

    Can these be searched on-line?

    If not what would be the best way for me to find out given that I'm a fair distance away from Kew?

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