Henry Frederick Skinner of Harlesden

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I'm working on contacting that researcher at present,and waiting for a reply.This Henry Frederick was born 1894 in Willesden,baptised in Rye Sussex.Parents Jane Elizabeth Boreham and Henry Skinner married 1891 at Pancras,London.Henry Frederick and Amy Elizabeth were a constant item on Willesden Electoral Rolls.At one point a Jane E Skinner was with them.This I presume was Henry's mother.

I'll go to your other posting Peter. Thanks,Barbara

I forgot to add that 1928 birth is Dad's sister,who is still alive in Victoria.I do not wish to identify her for various reasons.She was only 5 when put into care.
from Barbara

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Hi Peter,I was told that my grandfather Henry Frederick Skinner died sometime in 1928.I know parents have lied to their kids to cover their tracks.I was going to purchase 2 certificates,as there were 2 Peter Skinners born in Willesden
One is for the March Quarter of 1927,Skinner,Peter H. Mother's maiden surname Long.This is definitely Dad.
The other is for December Quarter of 1927,Skinner,Peter. Mother's maiden surname Skinner.

I found it curious that my grandmother was the informant on Dad's birth certificate, and that it was registered the same day.

I had hoped that maybe grandfather was buried locally,or that Dad had been christened in one of the nearby churches.

Dad always believed his parents were married.However,his memories were from his childhood..

Regards from Barbara

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Hello Barbara
There is an article about Middlemore Homes here and on the linked pages. There are records relating to the homes at Birmingham Archives: see the link on the bottom right of the page, 'Using the Middlemore Homes Archive'.

Much of the information on this site is about emigration to Canada, but it does note that 'From 1926, children from the Middlemore Homes were also sent to Australia through collaboration with the Fairbridge Society of London.'

Thank you Coromandel.I ran into problems with the records of the Bramhope children's Home.Dad also went there.There were numbers etc I quoted to the National Archives,and e-mailed the private repository in Manchester ,then received a reply back from NA.There were no minute or log books as described in NA database.There was only one photo.What I am looking for is evidence of the marital status of Dad's parents when he was first admitted into the Fairbridge scheme.On the shipping list for S.S.Orford,Dad was described as
a 10 year old schoolboy going to Lady Northcote Children's farm.There is a private trust in Victoria that is helping the British child Migrants with their English families,but they are overworked researching families later than the 30's.These are truly the forgotten children.I personally know of one chap,one of Dad's friends,who did go back and was reunited with half siblings,some years ago.Dad had no wish to return,and was also in ill health.The grandchildren who wish to know of their English heritage,are not receiving any help,except through forums such as this.

I thank you for even taking the time to care and help me. Regards from Barbara

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By the way, I had a look at the Electoral Registers. Nothing for 58 Craven Park (which is why I'm fishing for alternative addresses eg from the sister's birth certificate). There is a Henry Frederick Skinner in Willesden at about the right time but he appears to be with an Amy Elizabeth Skinner.

In 1928,W.Skinner also was same informant of next child,however,address had changed to 11 Church Road Willesden.Father was an ice-cream packer , same address.

Thanks Peter.I am scanning through all messages I have received.People are so helpful. Barbara W.

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I'm afraid I'm running out of ideas here. We need to identify the right Henry Frederick Skinner. I wonder if we might do it though Winifred. Have you got any more information on where Winifred came from and what happened to her?

By the way, there is a birth of a CLARKE child in Willesden in 1926, mother's maiden name LONG. I think I would be inclined to order this certificate in case it helps (specifying that mother's forenames should include Winifred).

Perhaps someone else has got some ideas.

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Peter,as of yesterday,my sister told me that one of the original cottages at Lady Northcote Children's Farm in Bacchus Marsh Victoria,is to be restored for historical purposes.Some records were found and put aside.Also,there are 49 original Old Northcotians still alive.So,there is still hope yet.It will take a while to find Dad' origins.It just won't be a direct route.Every stone will be turned.
regards from Barbara W

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By the way, I had a look at the Electoral Registers. Nothing for 58 Craven Park (which is why I'm fishing for alternative addresses eg from the sister's birth certificate). There is a Henry Frederick Skinner in Willesden at about the right time but he appears to be with an Amy Elizabeth Skinner.

Peter,I have a reasonable suspicion that Amy Elizabeth Skinner was Amy Elizabeth Long.I'm looking for that marriage.I'm still navigating my way around.

Barbara W.

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I'm afraid I'm running out of ideas here. We need to identify the right Henry Frederick Skinner. I wonder if we might do it though Winifred. Have you got any more information on where Winifred came from and what happened to her?

By the way, there is a birth of a CLARKE child in Willesden in 1926, mother's maiden name LONG. I think I would be inclined to order this certificate in case it helps (specifying that mother's forenames should include Winifred).

Perhaps someone else has got some ideas.

Peter,you reminded me that Dad and his sister both claimed to have had a twin brother.Dad called him Henry.Only one of them could be a twin.Was there a list of stillborn births that still had to be reported?I'm still looking for the reference to the Clarke child.

BarbaraW

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Peter,you reminded me that Dad and his sister both claimed to have had a twin brother.Dad called him Henry.Only one of them could be a twin.

Hello Barbara,

my Dad,Peter Henry Skinner had an 1930 original issue of his birth certificate.He was born 28th January 1927

Do you have a copy of your father's birth certificate from 1927 or just the one from 1930? If he was a twin, it should show the time he was born, not just the date. (Peter H SKINNER, March quarter 1927, Willesden district, volume 3a, page 374, mother's maiden name of LONG)

Is that a sister born in 1928 and registered in Willesden? I'd like to know what the birth certificate says.

So would I as the time would be noted if it turned out that she was a twin.

Was there a list of stillborn births that still had to be reported?I'm still looking for the reference to the Clarke child.

On 1st July 1927, stillbirth registration commenced. Have a read of the information on this Direct.gov webpage.

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Thanks Jan1954.None of the Skinner certificates I have shows a time of birth.However,for both Dad and his sister to insist on a twin baby brother, means there was a 3rd sibling.What I do have are photocopies of 1927 and 1928 certificates that were both issued on 16th May 1930.I do not know why Dad's mother obtained them.They are typewritten.Also,I'm not sure where the originals are.I presume my aunt has her original.However,I do have a properly certified certificate from 2007 from GRO.The only obvious difference is the entry is handwritten.
From Barbara W