The Damerell / Damiral family in Bermondsey

[RobinC]

Going by this information, Sophia isn't part of the family.

And I'm unsure of the link between Henry and the HMS Leopard now as there is no mention of it on the admission application.

[Kerrywood]

Good result from the Greenwich school records, well done!

Going by this information, Sophia isn't part of the family.

Perhaps she died as a child? Or she was married and/or no longer a dependent at the date of the application? (I haven't backtracked to check her year of birth.)

And I'm unsure of the link between Henry and the HMS Leopard now as there is no mention of it on the admission application.

Perhaps it is not a full service record as such?

As regards HMS Fisgard, you can follow Henry's movements nicely from here.

To get anything more for his career, I think you will need to check out the ships' musters at Kew.

[RobinC]

The movements of the Fisguard are very interesting so looking up the ships' muster is a necessity.

I have just looked back through the thread and Sophia was born in 1805 but Jane was born in 1803 so either Sophia died before 1823 or was no longer a dependant as you suggest. I have noticed that William who died in infancy does not appear either.

I just googled HMS Fisgard and found the following on Wikipedia:

HMS Fisgard was a 44-gun fifth-rate frigate (originally named Résistance) captured from the French in 1797 and sold in 1814.

This seems to be the ship that Henry served on.

[RobinC]

I am probably asking a stupid question here but how do I go about gaining access to the records at Kew?

Apologies if there is a thread explaining this already.

[Hollytree]

There seems to be a lot of Admiralty records on Fisgard at TNA:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/c...=21&image1.y=9

Have a look

Anne

[Hollytree]

Sorry, meant to say that you would probably have to visit TNA to look at the records...........as there are so many. Paint dry job I'm afraid

Anne

[RobinC]

Sorry, meant to say that you would probably have to visit TNA to look at the records...........as there are so many. Paint dry job I'm afraid

Anne

If I'm lucky, I might be able to order copies of the documents but as you say, I might have to go in person.

[RobinC]

If Henry was listed as deceased on the application of Peter for the Greenwich naval hospital, this puts his date of death somewhere between 1816 and 1823.

The trouble is, I can't find any record for his death.

If he died at sea, where would his death be recorded?

[damiral1974]

Hi, everyone, particularly RobinC, and sorry to deviate a bit...

After years of intention I'm now actively trying to create my own family tree. The argument in my own family has been whether or not Damiral originated in France, but it's looking increasingly probable that going back far enough it's connected to Demerel in Turkey.

The key thing I'd like to know is the details of our arrival in England, but for now, my question is:

Is there an existing tree going back four or five generations anywhere to be found, or should I hop between all the genealogy sites and try to build it myself?

FYI, I'm from the progeny of John Sidney Damiral and Myra Kathleen Taylor.

Thanks, and sorry to go a bit off-topic...

[RobinC]

http://
imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/hdamiral.jpg

Can anyone read the writing in this photo?

I think it starts "Rejected not having found ship to which...sent for..." but I can't make out a few of the last words.