Hi all,
Could someone do a lookup for me please?
My 2xGt-GF was one George Bingham, from Norton, Derbyshire, born about 1811. He married a Susanna Gillmer (b. about 1818, from Sussex) and they ended up in South Africa where they both died in Harrismith, 1867 and 1889 respectively. Their son, John Thomas Bingham was born in Harrismith in Apr 1854. John's siblings were Caroline, William, Robert, Josephine and Mary, with Caroline the oldest, b. 1840 in Lishuane, Basotuland.
Susanna's parents were William Gillmer and Benedicta Baynes about whom I know no more...
My trail runs cold with George... can anyone help with BC's, Marriage or parents for him?
Thanks
Kevin
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Hi Kevin.
I don't know if these are his parents, but it is a possibility for you...
name: George Bingham
birth date: 20 Jun 1809
birthplace: Green Hill, Norton Parish, Derby, England
father's name: John Bingham
mother's name: Ann
(Family Search)
Do you have George's death notice?
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No, I don't have any paperwork for George. The details I have come from my brother's research. He lives in Cape Town, but his research occurred back in about 2000, so I am not sure he still has the records he found.
Thanks for this info though, it is a very close match on dates and location.
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Hi Olliecat
There's also a William bapt to same parents, same place in 1811.
I hope it may connect to George.
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Georgiep
It might be a good idea to see if you can get hold of his death notice, either from your brother or from the S.A archives. The records may state the name of his parents.
This record from NAAIRS looks like a notice or estate file.
DEPOT VAB
SOURCE MHG
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 0
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE B278
PART 1
DESCRIPTION BINGHAM, GEORGE.
STARTING 18720000
ENDING 18720000
REMARKS NAGELATE EGGENOTE SUSARA (GEBORE GILMORE).
The depot is VAB (Free State Archives Repository) and so for a nominal fee, eggsa can obtain copies of this record for you.
www.
eggsa.org/sales/help_archive_docs.htm
Sue (one of the mods here on the Brit-Gen forum) knows far more than I do about S.A records and Eggsa and will jump into this thread if needed.
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Thanks for this...
Using my knowledge of Dutch and Afrikaans, this does look like a notice of Death.
"NAGELATE EGGENOTE SUSARA (GEBORE GILMORE)." translates to " left behind spouse SUSARA (born GILMORE)"
I'll drop my brother an email to see if he has this document already.
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Based on the names John Bingham and Ann as parents for "my" George, I found this, which looks like it could be their marriage, "John Bingham & Ann Hewit, 5 Mar. 1781", making the assumption that they were local to the area...
http://www.
uk-genealogy.org.uk/cgi-bin/browse.cgi?action=ViewRec&DB=8&bookID=13&page=50&s ubmit=Next
I also received a reply from my brother which is all the info he has on George, no parents mentioned on the DN:
George Bingham
Born: Greenhill Parish, Norton, Derbyshire, UK. Source: DN.
Wesleyan missionary turned farmer, who at one stage owned Beauchef
Abbey. Binghamsberg (now called Kerkenberg) was named after him. See
Hawkins. Beauchief is referenced in "Application to repair road
between Harrismith and Beauchief", VAB PWD Vol 86 Ref 130 of 1905.
George Bingham was granted Lot 18 (551 acres) on the General Plan of
Durban County on 1 Apr 1858 (Pmb Archive Repository SGOIII/12/1 p 91,
courtesy ShSp2.)
Books and articles that might be interesting:
Steytler, F. "Die Geskiedenis van Harrismith"
Basson, A. "The Geskiedenis van Blanke Onderwys in Harrismith"
Haasbroek, J. "Die rol van die Engelse gemeenskap in die
Oranjes-Vrystaat 1848-1859"
Whiteside, J. "History of the Wesleyan Methodist Church of South Africa"
"Het Vrijstaatsch jaarboek en almanak, 1894"
Schoeman, K., ed., "Bloemfontein Diary of Lieut. W.J. St John 1852-53",
Mentioned as a Wesleyan minister at the time of his marriage to
Susanna. Source: AJ1839.
Sent out as a missionary in 1836-1837. Source: Missionary Register for
1837, published by L & G Seeley, accessed via google books.
"Some interesting notices... at p 570, the embarkation of Mr Shaw and
his family, with Mr Green and Mr Bingham, on the 5 November... on the
7 December, they had nearly reached the latitude of Lisbon, having
weathered the storm of Nov 29th, which was severely felt in the Bay of
Biscay.". Source: Missionary Register Vol 25, Church Missionary
Society, accessed via google books.
Source: Missionary Register, 1836, p571, accessed via google books.
1836-11-5: Departed from England.
1837-2-14: Arrived at the Cape.
1839: Visited by James Backhouse. Source: A narrative of a visit to
the Mauritius and South Africa, Volume 1 By James Backhouse, accessed
via google books.
Source: The Cape of Good Hope and The Eastern Province, John
Centlivres Chase, 1843, accessed via google books.
Source: Minutes of the Methodist Conference, Vol 10, 1848, p 167,
accessed via google books.
Source: Minutes of the Methodist Conference, Vol 8, 1841, accessed via
google books.
Married: Cape Town. Source: IGI Batch 8814790 SCNo 1553210 Sheet 8.
Source: AJ1839=Asiatic Journal, 1839, p203, accessed via google books, 2010/3/6.
Died: 1867/01/27, At home, Harrismith. Source: DN VAB MHG Ref B278 of
1872. DN signed by his son-in-law MOLL.
Perhaps his boedel: VAB MHG 1/3/1/3 Ref BB11 of 1865.
From the Grahamstown Journal: "Mr George Bingham, a very old colonist,
formerly known as the Rev. G. Bingham, died at Harrismith on the 27th
January, [1867] at the age of 56. [13.3.1867, page 3, column 4]".Last edited by Jan1954; 04-11-2011 at 03:58 PM. Reason: Url edited as the website has a shop. Please read the terms of service.
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Looking at your link I wondered where this marriage occurred, but the previous page had Norton at the top. Just to be clear, I checked FreeREG and it was held at St James Norton.
www.
freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
Since George was born in 1809 and his potential sibling William in 1811, then I would be looking for other children by this couple if they married in 1781. I looked on Family Search and there were a number of children christened at Norton with parents John and Ann. In fact, I suspect there were more than one John and Ann having children in this parish around this time and at the moment we can't tell if any of these are other siblings of George. I made a quick list, which I can post, but a couple of points...
The earliest christening for a child with parents John and Ann at Norton appears to be 1793, which is quite a while after the marriage in 1781.
Also, checking the source film number, the records for George and William are from the Society of Friends. Yorkshire Quarterly Meeting. In other words they are Quaker records. All the other christening records I looked at on Family Search are from the parish registers of S. James' Church, Norton. So at the moment, it feels like George and William stand apart from the others.
You may want to check to see if the original images of these two Quaker records are on the pay site bmdregisters.co.uk or alternatively thegenealogist.co.uk. Also have a hunt for any other children of John and Ann.
Your George was a Wesleyan missionary. I suppose he could have chosen a different religion to his parents or they could have later converted. I'll let you think about that one.
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