Hines in Suffolk

[olliecat]

This still doesn't help with those elsuive ancestors, but there are two different apprentice records on Ancestry relating to Owen HINES of Bramford. The first is dated 1796 and the other is much earlier and is dated 1721. The entries can be found in Register of Duties Paid for Apprentices. Note: both Owen's were the masters and not the apprentices. Oh! and they were cordwainers.

(Register of Duties Paid for Apprentices)

The question is, are they related to your Owen HINES?

[olliecat]

First I would ask, for this marriage...

Owen HINES to Elizabeth BAGLEY on on 25 Oct 1803 at Ipswich St Matthew

...do you have a copy of the entry from the marriage register? If not then you should consider getting hold of a photocopy. The Suffolk Record Office in Ipswich do have a copying service and their prices look reasonable.

I also noticed that on this marriage that it has for the groom's parish, 'East Suffolk Militia'. You could also ask the Suffolk Record Office for information on any militia records they hold that cover this date.

www.
suffolk.gov.uk/LeisureAndCulture/LocalHistoryandHeritage/SuffolkRecordOffice/

[Jan1954]

Just to throw something else into the pot, the name of HINES may have developed from HINDS.

In the Suffolk Poll Book of 1710, there is an entry for a William HINDS in Bramford.

[olliecat]

Well, I’ve searched through the newspapers looking for any mention of Owen HINES, (the shoemaker) but so far no luck. I did come across a rather lengthy article relating to his son Owen and his daughter Mahala. Here is small part of it (in case you don't have it already.)

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COUNTY COURT REPORTS
IPSWICH
Saturday, January 18
(Before John Worlledae, Esq. Judge)

Fairweather vs Fairweather. -- This matter has been before the Court several times, and it relates to the disposition of the estate of Mahala Elizabeth Fairweather, who died in the parish of St. Mary Stoke, early on the 25th September, 1867.
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Owen Hines, the first witness said: I live in Bramford Lane Ipswich and I am a smith. I recollect the testratix, Mahala Elizabeth Fairweather. She was my sister. Her grandson William Fairweather, lodged with me
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The Ipswich Journal, Saturday, January 25, 1868

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The article continues for quite a while, going into the disposition of Mahala Fairweather's estate and Owen HINES' claim upon the estate for looking after Mahala's grandson William Fairweather.

NOTE: you will find a reference to the will of Mahala Elizabeth Fairweather in the National Probate Calendar, proved on 8 Apr 1867 by her daughter Mahala Elizabeth Fairweather.

[olliecat]

Well, still nothing on Owen HINES snr in the papers, but if I get a chance I'll have another search later. I did find a reference to John HINES of Holbrook...

Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries
DIED

17th inst., at Holbrook, after a long affliction, borne with pious resignation, age 18, Mary Ann, 3rd daughter of Mr John Hines, boot and shoe-maker.

The Ipswich Journal, Saturday, January 24, 1852

I also found a couple of mentions of John HINES of Holbrook in the Petty Sessions of 1869 relating to an assault on him from a man who was taking nuts from the estate of Sir George N. Broke-Middleton. I can't tell if this is John HINES the blacksmith or possibly his son (since he was labouring on a farm at the time.) Anyway, I'm not sure how interested you are in this article.

[chesil]

Hello,
Thank you for this info. John Hines (Shoemaker) had a son John b 1843, Holbrook (Farm Labourer). I would therefore appreciate any info you have.
Regards
David

[chesil]

Hello,
Many thanks. I will get hold of a copy.
Regards
David

[olliecat]

John Hines (Shoemaker) had a son John b 1843, Holbrook (Farm Labourer). I would therefore appreciate any info you have.

The Ipswich Journal, Saturday, September 11, 1869
PETTY SESSIONS REPORTS

Damage and Assault. -- Charles Cullingford, Robert Cullingford and Thomas Kemp, were charged with wilfully damaging 20 nut stubs in Freston Wood, on the 29th inst., the property of Rear-Admiral Sir Geo. Broke-Middleton.
Mr W. S. Yarington appeared for the prosecution.
]The defendant Robert Cullingford did not appear, but it was proved that he had received the summons, and it was stated that he had left his lodgings in Ipswich, taking his clothing and other articles with him.]
Walter Burrows, in the employ of Mr. Catchpole, said he saw the two prisoners and another person after the nuts in Freston Wood. He called assistance and pursued the defendants, and they were overtaken just outside the wood. The man who accompanied witness in pursuit spoke to the men, who were very abusive. Witness saw them gathering nuts. They were some distance off the path. He was quite sure the two defendants now present were those he saw in the woods and they, with Robert Cullingford, were pulling the boughs of the nut trees down.
William Collinson, also in the employ of Mr. Catchpole, said from what he heard he went and looked at the nut stubs in the slope in Freston Wood; and there being about twenty injured, the amount of damage being 2s. 6d. This part of the wood was quite 200 or 300 yards from the path.

Charles Cullingford was then charged with assaulting John Hines, of Holbrook, on the 28th of last August.
The complainant stated that Burrows called out to him that the defendants in the last case had been in the wood after nuts, and he joined in pursuit. Coming up with the defendants just outside the wood, he told them he should have to take the nuts from them. Robert Cullingford "drew his guard," having a stone in his hand, but he did not strike the witness. Charles Cullingford, however, threw a stone at him, and it struck him on the forehead, inflicting a severe wound. He took some nuts from Charles Cullingford, but he did not use any violence. The nuts were tied up in a handkerchief and were under the defendant’s arm.
Walter Burrows corroborated the statement.
Defendant said that Hines "chucked" the nuts from under his arm and kicked him and his brother Robert.
Mr. Yarington said there was a charge against Robert Cullingford of assaulting Walter Burrows, on the 28th of August but the Magistrates decided not to hear it to-day in the defendant’s absence.
The bench fined Charles Cullingford and Thomas Kemp, for injury to the nut stubs, 5s. each, and 12. 6d. costs and damage ; in default, seven days imprisonment. Charles Cullingford was further fined 5s., and costs 14s. for the assault; in default, seven days imprisonment. Kemp was allowed a week, but Charles Cullingford said he was not able to pay, and he was sent to prison, the second term of seven days to commence at the end of the first. A warrant was ordered to be issued for the apprehension of Robert Cullingford.
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To be cont'd

[olliecat]

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The Ipswich Journal, Saturday, September 18, 1869
PETTY SESSIONS REPORTS

Assault, -- Robert Cullingford, a ragged looking man, was brought up from the County Gaol, charged with assaulting John Hines and Walter Burrows at Freston on Saturday, the 28th August. The prisoner was also charged with trespass and malicious injury to some nut trees, the property of Sir George N. Brook-Middleton, bart., at the same time and place. He pleaded guilty to the charges of assault.
Mr. W. S. Yarington appeared for the prosecution.
The defendant was one of a party of men who appeared at the last sitting of the bench charged with the same offence. It appears that the defendant and the other men went into a wood at Freston for nuts. Whilst there they were seen by the lad Burrows and the man Hines, who were labourers upon the farm. They went up to the men and the defendant assaulted them. He struck the boy upon the ribs in a brutal manner nearly breaking his ribs. The lad was under medical advice for some time.
The chairman asked if anything was known of the prisoner.
H. Holder, head turnkey at the County Gaol, put in a list of convictions against the prisoner, from which it appeared that he had been convicted twice under the Juvenile Offenders’ Act, the latest of which was ten years ago. He was also sentenced to three years penal servitude at the Beccles Quarter Sessions, seven years ago, for stealing a coat.
The Chairman said the Magistrates considered this a most brutal and cowardly act of the defendant, to assault a little boy as he had done the lad Burrows. In consequence of the defendant’s character, the Magistrates had resolved to inflict the full penalty of the law – two months imprisonment.
Mr. Yarington said he would not proceed with the trespass and wilful damage case.

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