Hines in Suffolk

[chesil]

Looking for information on Hines who were Cordwainers/Shoe Makers in Suffolk circa 1750 - 1850.

It would appear they worked in the Bramford area until the early 1800s after which they appear in Stutton and Holbrook.

Regards

David

[notanotherminer]

Hi David

If you could give us some names and approximate years of birth please it will enable our members to better assist you. The more detail that you can give the easier it will be for us to try and find them for you.

The best starting point would be for us to take someone later in time whose year and place of birth you know so that we can work backwards.

[chesil]

Hello,

Further to my first message. Owen Hines 1800 -1845 Bramford / Stutton and John Hines 1830 - 1870 Holbrook. Hope this helps.

[notanotherminer]

If this family were all indigenous to the Suffolk area I think your thread would possibly be better placed in our Sussex Forum, rather than in Occupations. This way it would attract the attention of our members with knowledge of that region.

I have moved it for now but should you prefer it to be moved back at a later time please let me know.

[notanotherminer]

How sure are you about those dates, David? I can't find Owen in 1841 or John in 1841/51/61 with those birth dates. I did however find an Owen Hines, shemaker in 1841 who was born abt.1786

Hines Owen 55 Shoe m.
Hines Elizh 55
Hines Thomes (sic) 22 Shoe m.
Hines Sarah 15
Hines Mahal? 3
Rampling Wm 66
Watts Henry 20
All born in county

HO107/1034/[22/5]page 4 Crown Copyright TNA

[olliecat]

How sure are you about those dates, David? I can't find Owen in 1841 or John in 1841/51/61 with those birth dates. I did however find an Owen Hines, shemaker in 1841 who was born abt.1786

Could it be this Owen...

1841: Piece 1043; Book: 14; Folio: 43; Page: 2; Line: 5 (crown copyright, care of the TNA)
St Matthew, Ipswich
WILSON Robert 60
WILSON Christiana 50
WILSON Rhea 15
/
HINES, Owen 30, blacksmith
HINES, Mary 25
HINES, Robert 5
All born in the county

In the later census, this Owen was born abt 1804 in Bramford, but born 1810 in one census. He's not a shoemaker mind, but I wonder if he is a son of the elder Owen HINES (the shoemaker.)

[chesil]

Hello,

Owen Hines was born circa 1786 in Bramford. Moved to Stutton circa 1815. Died 1846 Stutton
John hines born 1810 Bramford. Married 1830 in Stutton. Died 1876 Holbrook

Regards

David

[notanotherminer]

You seem to have birth, marriage and death dates fairly well sewn up. What information is it that you need us to find. I assume that Owen is John's father. Do you baptisms for Owen's other children?

[chesil]

Hello,

I am stuck with Owen Hines born circa 1786. Thought as corwainer / shoemaker seems to be a family trade it might lead me to his ancestors. He had a son named Owen (a blacksmith). Owen could be family name handed down.

Regards

David

[olliecat]

This doesn't help with Owen's ancestors, but here is possible reference to him in 1803. You'd have to view the original record to see if the surname is more like HINES rather then HIMES.

Reference: EG4/G/5/3
Address: Gatacre Road, Ipswich, Suffolk, IP1 2LQ
Title: Bastardy maintenance order: Owen Himes, late of Stutton, cordwainer, reputed father of female bastard child by Elizabeth Read of Bramford
Date: 23 Jun 1803

(From the Suffolk Record Office)

www.
suffolkheritagedirect.org.uk/

Note: This would have been before his marriage to Elizabeth Bagley on 25 Oct 1803.