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    Wondered if someone could help me please trace my great great grandfather

    His name is Stephen Ransome was born 1841 Upwell

    There is a Stephen Ransome in the 1841 census but says Upwell Norfolk? Could this be him as the year of birth is 1836

    He married a lady called Jane but cannot find there marraige anywhere

    In 1881 Stephen was living at Long Sutton Lincolnshire


    And thats all i have on him,he seems rather confusing

    Any help would be great

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    Hi Belinda

    It depends when in 1841 he was born. If it was after the census, then you won't find him with his family until 1851.

    The only Stephen RANSOM/E I could see on FreeBMD had a birth registered in the September Quarter 1841, Freebridge Lynn Registration District (Norfolk) - Vol. 13; Page 141.

    1851 Census (HO107/1828/46/5) Mill House, Harpley, Freebridge Lynn

    George RANSOM (head) b. 1800
    Elizabeth (wife) b. 1803
    Martha (dau) b. 1833
    Susen (dau) b. 1835
    Stephen (son) b. 1842

    All born Harpley, Norfolk, except the wife who was born Rougham, Norfolk.
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    Hi
    I found him in 1841 census which i believe to be his parents so im thinking that he must have been born around 1836
    Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 755; Book: 10; Civil Parish: Upwell; County: Norfolk; Enumeration District: 11; Folio: 4; Page: 1
    Found him in the 1851 (just now) and in the 1881 but still cannot find his marriage to Jane

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    in 1891 Jane and the two children are lodging with a Chapman family. RG12; Piece: 1304; Folio 74; Page 17;
    Ancestry has a member submitted correction to the name so it might be worth getting in touch with the holder to see if they have any information you dont.

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    Belinda

    I assume you are sure you have the right Stephen in 1881 because you are descended from one of his children, Charlotte or Edward? Why not get a copy birth certificate for Jane's maiden name?

    Looking at the 1861 census in Harpley for a Stephen with parents George and Elizabeth, there is Stephen age 20 and a grandson Stephen RANSOM age 5. It looks like Stephen age 30 in 1871 in Harpley is married to Elizabeth age 26 and living with them is his nephew Stephen RANSOME age 14.

    If this is your Stephen, Jane would be his second wife or if Elizabeth still alive, they didn't marry at all. You need to work backwards from a birth certificate of one of his children.

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    There's an interesting 1868 gazetteer entry for Upwell in GENUKI:

    "UPWELL, a parish, partly in the hundred of Wisbech, Isle of Ely, county Cambridge, and partly in that of Clackclose, county Norfolk, 6½ miles south-east of Wisbech, its post town, and 95 from London."

    which might explain the Cambridgeshire/Norfolk confusion.

    see http://www.
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    which goes on to mention that the parish church stood in the Norfolk.

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    FamilySearch shows a 15 year old Stephen Ransom in Upwell (Norfolk) in 1851; relationship to the head of the household is son-in-law, presumably here meaning stepson. I don't have access to the full details at the moment.

    The Cambridgeshire FHS baptism database 1801-1837 can be searched at

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    It shows that a Stephen son of Charlotte & John Ransom was baptised at Upwell in 1835.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coromandel View Post
    FamilySearch shows a 15 year old Stephen Ransom in Upwell (Norfolk) in 1851

    Sorry, I misread that. His birthplace is given as Upwell . . . his residence is just given in the transcript as 'England', which isn't very helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lesleys View Post
    in 1891 Jane and the two children are lodging with a Chapman family. RG12; Piece: 1304; Folio 74; Page 17;
    Ancestry has a member submitted correction to the name so it might be worth getting in touch with the holder to see if they have any information you dont.
    Thankyou this is him,unfortunately they havent any other information either

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    I assume you are sure you have the right Stephen in 1881 because you are descended from one of his children, Charlotte or Edward? Why not get a copy birth certificate for Jane's maiden name?

    Yes my great grandfather was
    Ernest Edward Born 1881 in alot of information he is down as Edward

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