John A Beard born in France

**Kernow-Cousin** · 03-09-2011 12:03 PM

I am trying to find out about my great grandfather's brother. The 1861 census has his as being born 1855 in France. My great grandfather was born in Dudley, his sister was born in Monmouth. The family obviously travelled a bit but I can not find out why they would have been in France or if there is any way of getting a birth Cert for John Albert Beard. I can not find him on BMD. Any help greatly appreciated.

**suemalings** · 03-09-2011 2:10 PM

The 1871 census shows John's father, also John being born in Paris in 1822.

**Kerrywood** · 03-09-2011 8:51 PM

Hi Kernow-Cousin, and welcome to the forums!

Originally Posted by Kernow-Cousin

The 1861 census has his as being born 1855 in France.

I confess I'm having a lot of trouble finding this 1861 census! Can you please provide the census reference, or at least tell us which part of the country to look in?

The more information you can give us, the easier it is for our members to help you.

Coromandel · 03-09-2011 8:55 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrywood

I confess I'm having a lot of trouble finding this 1861 census! Can you please provide the census reference, or at least tell us which part of the country to look in?

I found them earlier when I was at the library, but failed to note down a reference: I think they were in Monmouthshire?

**Kerrywood** · 03-09-2011 8:59 PM

1861 census - RG9/4020 folio 31 page 19 (Newport, St Woollos)

Now to take a proper look at it.

**Kerrywood** · 03-09-2011 9:10 PM

1861 census
RG9/4020 folio 31 page 19
62 Dolphin St, St Woollos, Newport
James Beard Head Mar 37 Haulier? born Flatcher??
Ellen Beard Wife Mar 30 born Denbighshire Wrexham?
Mary A Beard Dau 10 born Denbighshire Wrexham?
John A. Beard Son 6 born France B. S.
George Beard Son 4 born Worcester Dudley
Harriett Beard Daur 14? months born Monmouth Newport

(held by TNA, Crown copyright)

FMP have BERRA, which is why I was struggling.

I'm not at all sure about some of the transcription, but I daresay Kernow-Cousin will be able to throw more light.

**Sue Mackay** · 03-09-2011 9:57 PM

Originally Posted by suemalings

The 1871 census shows John's father, also John being born in Paris in 1822.

I don't think that's the right one.
In 1871 John Alfred is with father James, haulier, who was born in Brighton
RG10; Piece: 2521; Folio: 43; Page: 19 (original TNA Crown copyright)
Ancestry have him indexed as BEARN

Perhaps if James was brought up on the South Coast he started hauling goods across the Channel

**Sue Mackay** · 03-09-2011 10:01 PM

The 1881 says John was born in Lamot, France. Will need to go an consult an atlas!

**suemalings** · 04-09-2011 7:52 AM

There is a marriage registration of a John Beard to Ellen Pugh, Wrexham June qtr 1850. Not what you are looking for but if it the right one then it maybe worth something.

**Kernow-Cousin** · 04-09-2011 9:30 AM

Yes this is the correct family. I have this marriage cert. Ellen (also Ellin on some Census) was born in Wrexham.

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