Beales and Nordelph and Norfolk

[Amlet]

Greetings to all. It's been awhile since I last posted.

I'm searching for a baptismal entry for an Arthur Beales (my sister in law's family name). The 1881 and 1901 census states he was born in Nordelph, Norfolk county in 1864. I've found two entries in Free BMD for an Arthur Beales in Thetford and Guildcross in the first quarter of 1864.

Nordelph is in the Norfolk Fens and fairly remote. In fact I don't believe Nordelph had a church until well into the second half of the 19th century. Should I be looking at the Thetford entry? Or am I completely on the wrong track?

Suggestions gratefully received.

Richard Globe

[malcolm99]

There is a transcript of Nordelph baptisms here:
http://
freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tinstaafl/Church_Pages/nordelph.htm#1870 but Arthur Beales isn't there.

I suspect he's in one of the neighbouring parishes viz: Downham, Denver, Upwell, Outwell, Stow Bardolplh.

I'll have a look and see if he's in any of them.

[Kerrywood]

I'm searching for a baptismal entry for an Arthur Beales (my sister in law's family name). The 1881 and 1901 census states he was born in Nordelph, Norfolk county in 1864.

You'd be better off going for a birth certificate at this date, if you can find the right one. That will give you the mother's maiden name, which is unlikely with a baptism.

Nordelph appears to come under Upwell, which is half in Norfolk and half in Cambridgeshire. I think Wisbeach is the relevant registration district for that date (though it was later in Downham).

Perhaps ...

Births
Jun Qtr 1863
BEALES Arthur Plumb
Wisbeach vol 3b page 655

1871 census - RG10/1621 folio 80 page 20, in Nordelph
Parents William, engine driver, and Susan.
(record held by TNA, Crown copyright)

Do you have the name/occupation of Arthur's father from his marriage certificate?

[Coromandel]

Using 'England Jurisdictions 1851' on FamilySearch you can superimpose parish maps on an old Ordnance Survey map.
Some of Nordelph appears to be in the parish of Upwell, but it is in the very top right-hand corner of Upwell, so parts could be in the neighbouring parishes of Denver (to the east) and Stow Bardolph (to the north). Downham Market and Outwell are also possible. This area was on the borders of the Wisbech and Downham registration districts.

Images of baptism registers for Denver and Downham can be seen online via FamilySearch; Upwell, Outwell and Stow Bardolph don't seem to be there.

There is a transcript of Nordelph baptisms here . . . but Arthur Beales isn't there.

Ooh, but there are some other BEALS entries in that transcript (perhaps his siblings?) beginning with Martin Luther Beals, baptised in 1867. The parents are shown as William (labourer) and Susan. Perhaps it would be helpful to find this family in 1871, to see whether they have an Arthur with them?

P.S. ah, well done Kerrywood, I see you've found him.

[Pam Downes]

As everybody seems to have beaten me to it, I would just say that I agree entirely with Arthur Plumb Beales, brth registered 1863, Wisbeach registration district.

Seems to have married one of the daughters of the family he was lodging with in 1881, as December quarter 1883 West Ham registration district there's a Arthur Beales and Lucy Purday (sic) on the same page.
Lucy is living with Henry and Mary and her siblings in Hilgay in 1871.

This link might be helpful. Scroll down to Directories http://www.
origins.org.uk/genuki/NFK/places/u/upwell/

Pam

[Coromandel]

A William Beales married in the 'Wisbeach' district in Q1 1854. One of two women on the same page (Vol. 3b, p.825) is a Susan Corkerton. It seems likely that they're the parents of Corkerton Thomas Beales (birth registered Q1 1859, 'Wisbeach' district). (Pam, I think you mentioned him in your first draft of post #5, but he seems to have disappeared now.)

[olliecat]

A William Beales married in the 'Wisbeach' district in Q1 1854. One of two women on the same page (Vol. 3b, p.825) is a Susan Corkerton.

There are a number of children of William Beales and Susan baptsied at Upwell St Peter, including...

14/05/1854 Jonathan William BEALES
27/04/1856 John Butters BEALES
13/03/1859 Corkerton Thomas BEALES

http://
freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tinstaafl/Church_Pages/upwell_st_peter5.htm

Since one of the children's names is Corkerton, then this would suggest that William Beales marries Susan Corkerton in 1854.

Since the younger children appear to have been baptised at Nordelph (after 1865), this leaves two middle children from the census yet to be accounted for in terms of baptisms, Jabez born abt 1861 and Arthur born abt 1863. Unless I missed them on the Upwell St Peter pages.

[Pam Downes]

A William Beales married in the 'Wisbeach' district in Q1 1854. One of two women on the same page (Vol. 3b, p.825) is a Susan Corkerton. It seems likely that they're the parents of Corkerton Thomas Beales (birth registered Q1 1859, 'Wisbeach' district). (Pam, I think you mentioned him in your first draft of post #5, but he seems to have disappeared now.)

It was one of those 'blink and you missed it entries'
I'd started to write one thing, got beaten to the typing by other people, and so amended my answer.
Pam

[Findem]

The following might provide a clue later on in your research of the Beales.

Mary Beales married Michael Dalton 28 Jun 1762 at St Mary in the Marsh, Norwich, Mary's parents are Simon and Mary Beales.

The info came originally from the IGI but has since been verified in the Parish Registers, sorry I can't give you any further info but I haven't come up with anything else on the Beales to date but at least you know there were some Beales around Norwich in 1762.

Regards and Good luck with your research.

[Findem]

PS Mary Beales was baptised 7 Jul 1738 at Stephen, Norwich.