Martin Family - Ireland/Scotland

[Alby65]

Will do; thanks!

[grisel]

Another marriage.
Free BMD has a marriage of a Samuel Ferguson Martin to a Margaret Wilson in Dec Q 1890 Whitehaven reg district. This is in England. The certificate should have his father's name.

[grisel]

Family search has a 41 yr old Samuel F Martin from Cleator travelling to New York in 1907

The index to the 1911 English census has wife Margaret (see post 13) and son Samuel F Martin still in Cleator. No sign of husband Samuel F, presumably still in US.

[olliecat]

The only other info I have on Samuel Ferguson born February 1, 1865 to James Martin & Mary Barr is from FamilySearch.org. after that I can't find him. Though on Ancestry.com some families have him married to a Mary Ann Bingham; though I can't verify it.

They may be right. Unfortunately, FamilySearch doesn't match up the spouses from the Ireland civil registration marriage indexes, which means one has to manually search for a spouse. I've wondered for a while if there was more than one marriage per vol/page, (just like the English/Welsh marriage indexes), so I've just conducted another search and found two more marriages with the same vol/page number and now I know for certain that there are.

name: Mary Anne Bingham
registration district: Banbridge
event type: MARRIAGES
registration quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1891
volume number: 1
page number: 235

name: Mathew Forsythe
registration district: Banbridge
event type: MARRIAGES
registration quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1891
volume number: 1
page number: 235

name: Samuel Ferguson Martin
registration district: Banbridge
event type: MARRIAGES
registration quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1891
volume number: 1
page number: 235

name: Margaret Ann Montgomery
registration district: Banbridge
event type: MARRIAGES
registration quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1891
volume number: 1
page number: 235

The marriage certificate would clarify who Samuel married.

Edit: I've just checked and the marriage is on rootsireland (pay site.) If you purchased some credits (€5.00), you could view a transcription of the marriage.

[grisel]

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Edit: I've just checked and the marriage is on rootsireland (pay site.) If you purchased some credits (€5.00), you could view a transcription of the marriage.

If you go into advanced search and put in spouse as Mary Anne Bingham - and father James - there is a match.

[olliecat]

I had a look for some of the Martin's in the Ireland census. This looks like James and Mary MARTIN nee BARR...

1901: James and Mary Martin
http://www.census.nationalarchives.i...treet/1206394/

1911: Mary Barr Martin
http://www.census.nationalarchives.i...Street/207900/

NOTE: a family tree on Ancestry, has Robert James Martin marrying Agnes Sarah Bell.

There are quite a few Martin's living in Mount Street, including a Samuel and Mary Martin, but Samuel's age doesn't quite fit.

1901: Samuel and Mary Martin
http://www.census.nationalarchives.i...treet/1206396/

I'd transcribe, but I'm still working out if I have the correct Martin's. However, I thought I'd post the links in the meantime.

[olliecat]

Looking for Samuel Ferguson Martin born 1865 in Ireland/Scotland; believed to have married a Mary Ann and had a son Alexander born 1881.

I have a question for you. I see from the 1901 Scotland census that Alexander Martin has nephew Alexander Martin (born abt 1881 in Ireland) staying with him. I'm wondering how you know that nephew Alexander's father is Samuel.

1901: Parish: Holytown; ED: 9; Page: 44 (care of the GRO for Scotland)

[grisel]

There are quite a few Martin's living in Mount Street, including a Samuel and Mary Martin, but Samuel's age doesn't quite fit.

1901: Samuel and Mary Martin
http://www.census.nationalarchives.i...treet/1206396/

This family are in house 83, Meeting St Dromore Urbam in 1911, married 10 years.

[Alby65]

I will check all this info out and let you all know what I find. Thanks again.

[Alby65]

I believe he is Samuel's child as the only other male in the family during that time frame is Alexander (my great-grandfather) and Robert who I confirmed did marry Agnes Bell and had Thomas, Mary, Ellen, Agnes & Robert James. So I would think Alexander goes with Samuel; unless James Martin their father has brothers...which I haven't found yet.