victoria moss great yarmouth

[perseus]

Hi There

What a lot of consideration ( not to say time) you are giving to Victoria. Thanks again.

I did toy with several ideas myself.

Perhaps William died at sea.

Perhaps they 'split up'.

Perhaps James & Victoria never married. She seems to have inherited james' wealth, & would that have happened had they not been married, especially as he doesn't seem to have made a will?
As James & Victoria were together on 1881 and she was accounted for in 1871, a marriage ( if there was one) should have happened during this period.

When did James'wife Lucy die. Did she die before 1881? I haven't found earlier censuses for them, or a marriage.
There are censuses already given in previous replies, so I need to check them out.

It does seem that your reasoning is very sound and that the marriage between William Dale & Victoria is correct.
W"hy do people have to disappear off the radar????

Don't really know why I'm surprised . I have another ancestor who registered her surname( and that of some of her children) differently as the whim took her. Because it is inconsistent ,and usually a common name, it is so frustrating.

If & when I get this solved, I have other conundrums to check out.

I think perhaps I shall send ffor the death cert though I guess it only contains information that has been given.
As Victoria is not a direct ancestor I was resisting the urge to send for a death cert. I sent for her b c expecting it to give me the name of Cassandra's father but none entered.

I do appreciate all your help. I think I was stuck in a rut which I couldn't seem to get out of, and just kept going over the same stuff.

[Kerrywood]

I think perhaps I shall send ffor the death cert though I guess it only contains information that has been given.

I think I would go for the will first. If, as it seems, Victoria had no children, she may well have made bequests to nieces/nephews/other family members.

Whatever you decide to do, please let us know how you get on.

[perseus]

Hi Kerrywood

Will keep you informed. Here's hoping the will clarifies things a bit.
Let's hope there are some Moss & Johnson beneficiaries!
I found out lots of information from a couple of wills on the Law side of my family, some new and some confirmation.
Not sure how long it will take to get the will...guess it depends on how busy the office is.

Thanks again

[perseus]

Hi
Managed to solve one problem by chance. Going over the info I had on the Moss family, I found Arthur Thomas Beales living at 11 Station Terrace in 1901. His wife was Anna Maria Moss, a niece of Victoria & sister to Victoria Tillet Moss & Sarah Ellen Moss. So there's the connection to yarmouth on Victoria's death.
Yippee!
One solved several more to go.
Where's that will???????

[Kerrywood]

I found Arthur Thomas Beales living at 11 Station Terrace in 1901. His wife was Anna Maria Moss, a niece of Victoria & sister to Victoria Tillet Moss & Sarah Ellen Moss.

That's a good find!

You mention a Victoria Tillet MOSS, and it's interesting that you already had the surname TILLETT in your MOSS family. I wonder if James TILLETT was related in some way to Victoria MOSS?

[perseus]

After finding that Victoria married a Tillett, I surmised that Victoria Tillet Moss may have been named after Victoria which is why I thought their marriage must have been 1878 or before!!

Walter Moss, a brother to Anna Maria also lived in Station Terrace in 1901 at no 7.

Henry James Moss, a half brother to Anna Maria & brother to Sarah Ellen is listed as a cabman in 1891 ( in Leicester,seems like him) and in Yarmouth in 1901. Bit spooky as I was born in Leicester, and my parents didn't meet 'til late 1930s.
Could the 'cabman' bit be a link!!!!

Also just to say that Sarah Ellen was a half sister to Anna Maria Moss & Victoria Tillett Moss. I think she may have died in 1894.
Henry, the father was married to 1. Amy Steward 2 Maria Steward.

I thought there must be a family connection to Station Terrace but tha address search didn't bring up anything for Station Terrace in 1901. So all those notes I keep do come in handy!

[perseus]

Just an update to say I am waiting for a copy of the will.

[Kerrywood]

Thanks for letting us know. I'm afraid these wills can take quite a few weeks to come. But it's just as well you ordered when you did, because the cost has recently been increased.

[perseus]

Kerrywood
Thanks for that! I was wondering about the length of time. I ordered the will a couple of weeks ago so I just need to be patient.

[perseus]

Hi everyone

The long awaited will has arrived.
This is indeed 'my' Victoria.
She left £2129 19s 6d!

She left £100 to her friend Sarah Norton & she was charged with ensuring her other bequests were carried out.
There is mention of Cassandra (though mis- named as Christina) her sister who got £500 for her sole use! Henry (now deceased), her brother. His widow Maria & all his children from 2 marriages shared the residue of the estate after bequests had been attended to. Anna Maria Beales( Henry's daughter) inherited her jewellery & £200. Anna Beales & her husband were residing at 11 Station Rd in 1901, so I would guess that Victoria was staying with them when she died.
Thanks to all of you for gettng me over this obstacle. It seems all your info was correct.