Screw Schooner "Jeanne" - 1891

[Colin Rowledge]

I have a relative who was a boy seaman on this ship when the census for 1891 was taken. It lists him, along with the crew in Whitehaven, Cumberland The reference - care if TNA - is RG12, piece 4314, folio 150, page 1

He was enumerated as Charles Ahlstedt - a crew member

Any information this ship and the life of this individual while serving would be appreciated

[Sue Mackay]

The description of the ship (the equivalent of the enumeration district page) shows that the Jeanne's number was 89129, registered at Swansea, 38 tons, screw steam powered, employed in coasting.

[Colin Rowledge]

The description of the ship (the equivalent of the enumeration district page) shows that the Jeanne's number was 89129, registered at Swansea, 38 tons, screw steam powered, employed in coasting.

Hi Sue.
Where did you find this information - Ancestry or FMP? I cannot get a hit on Anc.

Colin

[notanotherminer]

The crew agreements and logbooks for most British Merchant Ships from 1863-1938 are held at the Maritime History Archive of the Memorial University, Newfoundland.

Their indexes will tell you if and what records they hold for a particular vessel. Unfortunately, Colin, these can only be searched online by the vessel's official number

http://www.
mun.ca/mha/holdings/searchcombinedcrews.php

I've tried googling to see if I can find a reference that shows the Jeanne's official number but I've had no joy. I have no knowledge of sources in Canada but it might well be that you have to refer to Lloyds Registers or Mercantile Navy Lists. Alternatively, if you contact the University directly they should be able to do a search by ship's name.

There is also a useful research guide produced by the national Maritime Museum:

http://www.
nmm.ac.uk/researchers/library/research-guides/the-merchant-navy/research-guide-c13-the-merchant-navy-tracing-merchant-seamen-sources-of-information-in-the-national-maritime-museum

[notanotherminer]

The description of the ship (the equivalent of the enumeration district page) shows that the Jeanne's number was 89129, registered at Swansea, 38 tons, screw steam powered, employed in coasting.

Well done Sue. Hopefully that'll enable Colin to find out a bit more

[notanotherminer]

A quick look shows a category D2 record for 1893 and then each year from 1896-1899. The code D2 signifies that a logbook is attached.

If you do want to see copies of what they have click on the link for ordering copies of crew agreements. You will need to email your enquiry to the address given and they will contact you to let you know exactly what they have on the Jeanne and advise you of costs for search and photocopying.

I have used their services myself Colin and found them very helpful and reliable.

[Squaredancer]

As the Jeanne was registered in Swansea, I tried
http://www.
swanseamariners.org.uk

Click on Ships Register - there's a bit more detailed information about her there

You can also find, when you've found the Jeanne's record, information about her voyages and owners

[Jellylegs]

Hi Sue.
Where did you find this information - Ancestry or FMP? I cannot get a hit on Anc.

Colin

Colin, if you look at the original census image on FMP, then go previous page, the info is there. Ancestry didn't work for me - the page loaded but with errors, so I couldn't go back or forward.

[notanotherminer]

You can also find, when you've found the Jeanne's record, information about her voyages and owner

Unfortunately the log entries shown online only seem to be for the year 1891. There is neveretheless quite a bit of general information about her.

However, it does state that records are also held by West Glamorgan Archives so it might be worth contacting them to see what they have for later years. As the Memorial University specifically claim to be custodians of the logs for the period shown I would imagine that West Glamorgan only hold the missing years.

Thanks for the info on the website Squaredancer. I'll have a good browse later

[Sue Mackay]

Hi Sue.
Where did you find this information - Ancestry or FMP? I cannot get a hit on Anc.

Colin

On Ancestry, bring up the census page. Then look above the page in the middle and you will see Cumberland - Vessels - District Jeanne. Click on District Jeanne. This brings you up a list of enumeration districts on that piece number (the principle is the same for all Ancestry census images, if you want to see the description of the ED) but in this case each ED is the name of a ship.