Hello,
Looking to find Christian Elizabeth Campbell born about 1815 in Jamaica. I am not sure when she left there but but married and having children in England and Scotland by 1840-1841.
She married George Taylor born 1804 Marykirk Scotland. The Name Taylor is also spelled Tailyour. The Taylor family very prominent in Jamaica with plantations---John and Simon Taylor.
I have not been able to find out when she came to England or how she met George and where they married. Or if he came to Jamaica, met her there.
Any help greatly appreciated
Elaine
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25-04-2011, 7:52 PM #1
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Christian Elizabeth Campbell born Jamaica
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25-04-2011, 8:46 PM #2
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Is this Christian, George and their children in Edinburgh in the 1851 census?
1851: Parish: Edinburgh St Mary; ED: 11; Page: 20; Line: 18;
Then in Cheltenham in 1861...
1861: RG9; Piece: 1802; Folio: 19; Page: 32 (crown copyright, care of the TNA)
Do you have them in the 1841 census?
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25-04-2011, 8:50 PM #3terrysfamilyGuest
Hi
odd Question, I know, but do you have their childrens names?
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25-04-2011, 8:57 PM #4
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I think this is likely to be the family...
1851: Parish: Edinburgh St Mary; ED: 11; Page: 18 (care of the GRO for Scotland)
27 Drummond Place
George Taylor 47, Lines On Interest Of His Money Ineceton In The Paritish Stocks In Indies, born Marykirk, Kincardinesh
Christina Taylor 38, born Jamaica
Eleanor Taylor 9, born England
Simon Taylor 7, born England
George Taylor 6, born England
William Taylor 7 mo, Edinr, Midlothian
Note: in the 1861 census, daughters Eleanor's birth place is recorded as Southampton.
Have you spotted those children christening in Hampshire on family search.Last edited by olliecat; 25-04-2011 at 9:01 PM. Reason: added note
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25-04-2011, 9:04 PM #5
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Since the family appear to have moved about a bit and were in Cheltenham by 1861, I do wonder about this marriage...
Marriages Mar 1841 Cheltenham 11 195
Craig Jane
Fry Ann
GARDNER Rickard
GIBBS Martha Elizabeth
JOLP Christian Elizabeth Campbell
Simms William
Taylor George
Woodfield Joseph
From the Gloucestershire BMD, out of those listed above, George Taylor married Christian JOPP (sic). Perhaps this was a second marriage for Christian.
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25-04-2011, 10:35 PM #6terrysfamilyGuest
Well done olliecat
If you take into account the 1851 census post #4 and the names of the children and then put it together with the Marriage in post #5 that olliecat found in . Now if you add in the 1861 Census, still Living in Cheltenham, where it says Stewart was actually born c1851, censuses are always +/- a year. Then these must be the registers of their children.
Look at the mothers name on William Stewart Taylor and you will see that it says Christian Elizabeth Campbell Jopp.
So it looks like the marriage that olliecat found is yours.
Eleanor Jane Taylor Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 13 Apr 1842 Southampton, Hampshire, England
Father George Taylor Mother Christian Elizabeth Campbell
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03379-1 Source Film Number: 1596324 Reference Number: p 168 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
George Robert Taylor Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 03 Feb 1845 Holy Trinity, Fareham, Hampshire, England
Father George Taylor Mother Christine Elizabeth Campbell
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04111-1 Source Film Number: 1596131 Reference Number: item 2 p 54 rn 435 Collection: Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Births Mar 1846 Taylor Keith Fareham 784
Keith Taylor Male Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 23 Feb 1846 Holy Trinity, Fareham, Hampshire, England
Father George Taylor Mother Christian Elizabeth Campbell
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04111-1 Source Film Number: 1596131 Reference Number: item 2 p 60 rn 486 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Deaths Jun 1846 Taylor Keith Fareham 756
William Stewart Taylor Male
Birth Date: 09 Aug 1850 Edinburgh, Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Father George Taylor Mother Christian Elizabeth Campbell Jopp
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11984-2 Source Film Number: 1066693 Collection: Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Alexander Taylor Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 10 Dec 1851Edinburgh, Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Father George Taylor Mother Christian Elizabeth Campbell
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11984-2 Source Film Number: 1066693 Collection: Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Christian Mary Keith Taylor Female
Birth Date: 07 Sep 1853 Kettins, Angus, Scotlland
Father George Taylor Mother Christian Elizabeth Campbell
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11294-4 Source Film Number: 993439 Collection: Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Terry
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Thank you all for the great info. I had not seen that Christina's maiden name was Jopp. Seeing the marriage to George in Cheltenham certainly looks like the right one and I shall go ahead and order the marriage certificate. Finding them in Cheltenham fits----the family seems to end up there a lot and daughter Eleanor was married there in 1870.
I think I have them on the 1841 census in Kincardinshire---that would fit after the marriage as I see that the census was taken on June 6. They certainly seem to move around a lot.
So once again many thanks. I am next going to try and find Christina in Jamaica and when she came to England.
Elaine
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26-04-2011, 6:06 AM #9CoromandelGuest
Well done olliecat and terrysfamily for your super detective work overnight.
Elaine, do you have access to the British Library 19th Century Newspapers database? You'll find numerous references to the Jopp family there. Here are just a few:
The Morning Post, 9 February 1841:
'MARRIED'
'On the 28th ult., at St. Mary's Church, Cheltenham, by the Rev.(?) Francis Close, George Taylor, Esq., to Christian Elizabeth Cam(p?)bell, youngest daughter of the late Keith Jopp, Esq.'
Death announced in the Morning Post, 4 September 1823:
'Lately, at Tours, in France, Keith Jopp, Esq. late of Bath and the Island of Jamaica.'
Death announced in the Morning Chronicle, 8 January 1859:
'On the 5th inst., at Cheltenham, Eleanor, widow of the late Keith Jopp, Esq., of Keith-hall, and Joppa, Jamaica, aged 82.'
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