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    In 1881 Mary is not there and Edward has only Ann C 1857, and Clara J 1860, with him.
    RG11/772,F.80, P.34 (TNA Copyright)

    A few lines above at another farm is Ernest married to Julia and their children.

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    I think we must make a good team, the pussy cat, the old dawg and the Nerd!!!

    I never said that.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutley View Post
    I think we must make a good team, the pussy cat, the old dawg and the Nerd!!!
    I never said that.....
    Coromandel will never notice. Or a peace offering of chocolate should do the trick.

    Three more sons of Richard and Ann, but where are the two daughters?

    name: Richard Hilder
    baptism/christening date: 21 Nov 1802
    baptism/christening place: Suffolk, England
    birth date: 14 Oct 1802
    father's name: Richard Hilder
    mother's name: Ann Challis

    name: Henry Hilder
    baptism/christening date: 20 Nov 1800
    baptism/christening place: Cockfield, Sufolk, England
    birth date: 05 Oct 1800
    father's name: Richard Hilder
    mother's name: Ann Challis Hilder

    name: Alfred Hilder
    baptism/christening date: 07 Jun 1812
    baptism/christening place: Cockfield, Suffolk, England
    birth date: 18 Apr 1812
    father's name: Richard Hilder
    mother's name: Ann Challis Hilder

    In 1851, after parents Richard and Ann have died, son Richard is still at Church Farm

    1851: HO107 Piece: 1790 Folio: 33 Page: 26 (crown copyright, care of the TNA)

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    I guess this marriage fits..

    groom's name: Richd. Hilder
    bride's name: Anne Challis
    marriage date: 22 Nov 1798
    marriage place: Parish Of Cockfield, Co. Of Suffolk, England
    groom's marital status: Single
    bride's marital status: Single
    (family search)

    Anything in the newspaper Coromandel?

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    I thought Mary had died seeing as she is not with Edward in 1881 but....
    she seems to have moved farms and is living with the farm bailiff and daughter Helen Joyce. Farmer's wife and Farmer's daughter in the occupation column is crossed through so maybe they had a falling out.

    RG11/1832, F.74, P.19 (TNA Copyright)

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    Quote Originally Posted by olliecat View Post
    It looks like Edward Hilder, Mary and their 1 month old child Mary are in Old Hall Green, Cockfield in 1841.

    1841: HO107 Piece: 1011 Book/Folio: 17 Page: 1 (crown copyright, care of the TNA)
    Is there any sign of another child, Edward? The Bury & Norwich Post of Wednesday 12 Oct 1842 carries this poignant announcement of his death the previous Thursday:
    'to the inexpressible grief of his parents, after only a few days' illness, aged 2 years and 8 months, Edw. Ridley, son of Mr. Edward Hilder, farmer, of Cockfield.'

    Though his life was so brief, he should appear on the 1841 census.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coromandel View Post
    Is there any sign of another child, Edward? The Bury & Norwich Post of Wednesday 12 Oct 1842 carries this poignant announcement of his death the previous Thursday:
    'to the inexpressible grief of his parents, after only a few days' illness, aged 2 years and 8 months, Edw. Ridley, son of Mr. Edward Hilder, farmer, of Cockfield.'

    Though his life was so brief, he should appear on the 1841 census.
    Cannot see him yet
    His birth was registered in Cosford in March 1840 and his death in Dec 1842
    I cannot yet find the registration of the birth for the second Edward born 1843 yet I can see Thomas in 1844, Eliza in 1846 and Ernest in 1847.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coromandel View Post
    Though his life was so brief, he should appear on the 1841 census.
    I did come across the birth in the indexes earlier and wondered what had happened to him.

    Births Mar 1840 Cosford 12 347
    Hilder Edward Ridley

    I couldn't see Edward Hilder in the 1841 census (I must re-check) but I did come across a Ridley Hilder staying with a Ridly family. I was wondering if Thomas was Mary Ridley's father. Mary does state she was born in Bury St Edmund.

    1841: HO107 Piece: 1042 Book/Folio: 17 Page: 27
    Low Baxter Street, St James, Bury St Edmund
    RIDLY, Thomas, 50, grocer, Suffolk
    RIDLY, Charlotte, 20, Suffolk
    RIDLY, Alfred, 13, Suffolk
    RIDLY, Horace, 8, Suffolk
    RIDLY, Frank, 6, Suffolk
    FREEBORN, Sarah, 25
    HILDER, Ridley, 1, Suffolk
    CARTER, Elizabeth, 20
    PEARL, Jane, 12
    FARROW, Keziah, 14, Suffolk


    Edit: That's good Mutley, if you've checked for an Edward then I don't need to re-check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutley View Post
    I think we must make a good team, the pussy cat, the old dawg and the Nerd!!!

    I never said that.....
    'Tis my own fault for calling myself a nerd in the first place (but I hope the name isn't going to stick! ) Perhaps I need to invent a new name? If we're to be the classic cartoon threesome I should really be a mouse, I suppose.

    Quote Originally Posted by olliecat
    A peace offering of chocolate should do the trick.
    Did someone say chocolate?

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    I think it is cut and dried that the first Edward 1840 - 1842 died but I am struggling with the 1843 child.

    I have found an 1871 census with an Edward Hilder born about 1843 in Cuckfield. He is married to Harriett and they have three children Mary E. 1866, Richard H. 1869 and Edward at 2 months old.
    An explanation may be that in the where born column Mary and Richard have...
    Queensland at Sea!

    RG10/807, F.8, P.10 (TNA Copyright)

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