Hilder Family

[caperone]

I have been searching my info to find sources for my ancestors and this is what I found to date.

On the 1851 Census

Name Relation Condition Age Birth Yr Occupation where born

Hilder Edward Head married 37 1814 farmer of 390 A Cockfield Suffolk
employing 23 labourers

Hilder Mary Wife married 31 1820 Farmers wife Bury St Edmunds Cockfield
Hilder Mary H Dau 9 1842 Scholar at home Cockfield Suffolk
Hilder Edward Son 8 1843 scholar at home Cockfield Suffolk
Hilder Ridley Thos Son 6 1845 Scholar at home Cockfield Suffolk
Hilder Earnest Alfred Son 4 1847 Scholar at home Cockfield Suffolk
Hilder Charlotte Elizabeth Dau 1 1850 Woking Surry



On the LDS site I found Edward Hilder( DOB 1814,DOD 1894) married to Mary Ridley (DOB 1819, DOD 1887). They were married @1839 at Northgate England but the children are Edward 1840-1842
Ridley 1847, Charlotte 1840, then Clara 1853,Alice 1857. Edward's (DOB 1814) parents were listed as Richard Hilder and Ann Challis and his wife Mary Ridley.

Any help would be appreciated!

[Coromandel]

Have you come across the discussion on Ancestry's message boards called 'The Hilder family of Tasmania'? One of the contributors to the thread is descended from Richard Hilder and Ann Challis from Cockfield, and has evidently done much research on the family.

[olliecat]

On the LDS site I found Edward Hilder( DOB 1814,DOD 1894) married to Mary Ridley (DOB 1819, DOD 1887). They were married @1839 at Northgate England

If this is the correct marriage, then rather relying on the LDS, the certificate should tell you their father's names.

Marriages Mar 1839 Bury St. Edmunds 13 639
BAKER Cornelius
CLARK Louisa
COOK Eliza
HILDER Edward
MILLER John
NOON Mary
RIDLEY Mary
RIDLEY Thomas

[olliecat]

Thought I'd have a look, see if there were any Richard Hilder's in Cockfiled.

1841: Piece: 1011 Book/Folio: 19 Page: 4 (crown copyright, care of the TNA)
Church Farm, Cockfield
HILDER, Richard 70, farmer
HILDER, Ann 60
HILDER, Richard 35
NORMAN, Elizebeth 65
ALDERTON, Eliza 20
SANSAM, Mary 70
All born Suffolk.

Note: It looks like Edward Hilder, Mary and their 1 month old child Mary are in Old Hall Green, Cockfield in 1841.

1841: HO107 Piece: 1011 Book/Folio: 17 Page: 1 (crown copyright, care of the TNA)

[Mutley]

There are two public trees on Ancestry that seem to include Edward.

In 1841 he and Mary have a daughter Mary aged 1 month so born about 1841.
HO107/1011 Book 10, F.?, P.1

In 1851 (as you have found) they have (spellings as transcriptions)
Mary Heph, 1842
Edward, 1843
Thos Ridley, 1845
Earnest Alfred, 1847
Charlott Elizabeth (without an age)
HO107/1594 F.95, P1

In 1861 they have
Earnest A, 1847
Charlott E, 1850
Alice, 1853
Eliza C, 1854
Ann C, 1857
RG9/424, F.117, P.12

(Records copyright TNA)

[Coromandel]

Death announcement from the Ipswich Journal, 29 April 1843:
'22nd inst., aged 66, Ann, wife of Mr. Richard Hilder, farmer, of Cockfield.'

And another from the Bury and Norwich Post, and Suffolk Herald, 1 Jan. 1851:
'On the 30th inst., at Cockfield Church House, near this town, Mr. Richard Hilder, late of Old Hall Green Farm, in the 81st year of his age, leaving four sons and two daughters to lament their loss.' [definitely says 'inst.', i.e. this month, but must mean December]

[olliecat]

Guess the announcements tie in with these.

Deaths Jun 1843 Cosford 12 223
HILDER Ann

Deaths Mar 1851 Cosford 12 255
HILDER Richard

I couldn't see a PCC will for Richard. Perhaps one went through the lower courts.

[Mutley]

My connection is very slow today, so forgive me for repeating those that are faster.
(I thought I saw a pussy cat!! lol)

In 1871 they have
Thos Ridley, 1845
Charlotte Elizabeth, 1844
Alice, 1852
Eliza Catherine, 1855
Ann Charles, 1857
Clara Jessie, 1860
Helen Joyce, 1862
Florence Grace, 1864
RG10/807, F.67, P. 34 (TNA Copyright)


All these births should be found on FreeBMD

[olliecat]

Could be Edwards christening...

name: Edward Hilder
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 1814
baptism/christening place: , COCKFIELD, SUFFOLK, ENGLAND
father's name: Richard Hilder
mother's name: Ann
(from family search)

There are other children. Will count them in a moment.

(I thought I saw a pussy cat!! lol)

And I spie the mut mut mut. Long time no see.

[Coromandel]

More death announcements, maybe for the previous generation:

The Bury & Norwich Post, Wednesday 1 Nov 1826
'On the same day [i.e. 'On Sunday last'], in her 88th year, after a long and painful affliction, Catherine, the wife of Mr. Richard Hilder, sen. of Cockfield Cottage.'

Bury & Norwich Post, Wednesday 7 Feb 1827
'On Thursday last, in his 85th year, Richard Hilder, Gent. of Cockfield Cottage, whose mild and gentle manners had gained him the highest respect of his relatives and friends.'