I have GG Grandmother by the name of Emma Broome who came to Australia in 1856 on board the "herald". Emma married convict William Williams in 1858 in Goulburn NSW. Australia. Would love more info on Emma's family, Thomas Broome and Jane Warrender or Worrinder, in particular Thomas. Emma was born in 1832, Weston Under Lizard. I have no birth date for Thomas.
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30-03-2011 02:53 AM #1Starting to feel at home.
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Thomas Broome and Jane Warrender (Worrinder)
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Thomas Broome and Jane Worrinder were married at Weston under Lizard, Staffordshire on 23 Feb 1823 (Source: Family Search)
I have moved your thread from the "Problems Navigating Brit-Gen" Forum to the Staffordshire Forum where it will hopefully attract interest from those with knowledge of local resources
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30-03-2011 03:12 AM #3Super Moderator
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In 1841 Emma was living with Thomas and Jane Weston Village, Weston under Lizard (enumerated Broom)
Thomas was an Ag Lab b. abt 1794 and Jane abt. 1800 (both born in County)
HO107/974/[15/8]/page 11 Crown Copyright TNA
There were 12 people in the household. If you don't already have them let me know and I'll post the details
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It's possible that by 1851 Jane had died and the family had moved to London where Thomas was remarried and working as a Gardener.
I say possible because 4 of the 5 children bear a remarkable similarity to 4 of the children living with them in 1841 and all the birthplaces are shown as Weston
Living at 9, New Wharf, Whitefriars, London (all named Broome)
Thomas 57 Gardener b,Weston, Staffs
Mary 41 b.Farley
Thomas 22 Shoemaker
Esther 17
John 14
Henry 11
Mary Ann 8
All children born Weston
HO107/1528/37/page 35 Crown Copyright TNALast edited by notanotherminer; 31-03-2011 at 01:49 AM. Reason: mistyped person's age
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I'm away to bed shortly so I'll post the children in the 1841 census just in case you don't have them:
Harriet 16
Jane 15
Thomas 12
Esther 10
Emma 7
John 5
Henry 2
Also in the household were John Onions 81, Mary Milward 24 and Sanders Gibbs 1.
Census reference and copyright as #3.
Apart from Esther's age being slightly out between 1841 and 1851 Thomas, John and Henry are strikingly similar in both censuses.
Hopefully someone might be able to find a death for Jane but if not I'll have a look tomorrow and see if I can find anything
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31-03-2011 01:04 AM #6Starting to feel at home.
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Thanks for moving me to the correct place. I had no idea where to post a new thread (derrr). Thomas & Jane have been hanging around for a while and thought it was a good time to find them a home. Looking forward to sorting them out. Thanks for the help and would appreciate the details that you offered to post.
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Most of it (the names of the children) is in my post 5. This is all the family in the 1841 census:Thanks for the help and would appreciate the details that you offered to post.
Thomas 47
Jane 41
Harriet 16
Jane 15
Thomas 12
Esther 10
Emma 7
John 5
Henry 2
Also in the household were John Onions 81, Mary Milward 24 and Sanders Gibbs 1.
HO107/974/[15/8]/page 11 Crown Copyright TNA
Please note that i mistyped Thomas' age in the 1851 census. this should read 57 years old which matches the age of the Thomas 10 years earlier in 1841.
I'll go and edit it to avoid confusion.
Did the family all travel to Australia together or was it only Emma?
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Searching via the Hugh Wallis site the following children were all baptised to Thomas Broome and Jane at Weston under Lizard
Harriet bapt. 03 Oct 1824
Jane bapt. 04 Jun 1826
Thomas bapt 19 Dec 1828
Esther bapt. 08 May 1831
Emma bapt. 11 Aug 1832
John Rees James bapt. 18 Oct 1835
Mary Ann Broome bapt. 18 Sep 1842
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If the family moved to London together this could be Jane's death:It's possible that by 1851 Jane had died and the family had moved to London where Thomas was remarried and working as a Gardener.
Broome Jane Dec qtr 1844 London vol 2 page 159
Unfortunately ages at death were not given in the indices until 1866 so there's no sure way of knowing whether it's her short of buying the death certificate. However the family were living at Whitefriars in 1851 which came under the City of London Registration District. You will note that this death was also registered in the City of london.
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This is a possible marriage for Thomas and Mary
Broome Thomas Sep qtr 1849 Lambeth vol 4 page 346
Indexed on the same page is a Mary Jackson
I'm not really confident about that but if I've been on the right track that's the only marriage after 1844 that would seem to fit.
I think one of our London experts might be able to find the actual marriage which would be a great help
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