find marriage using local index ref numbers

[RonOne]

Back on the original subject, here's a website you may find useful for locating marriage venues using the GRO index references.

http://www.
marriage-locator.co.uk/

Note: This is still a work in progess, so if you don't find what you're looking for it's worthwhile rechecking at a later date.

[v.wells]

I found this thread to be absolutely fascinating! Who'd have thunk we'd have such "nerdy" types on B-G? Woefully I am not one of them but the marriage-locator site I've seen before and have used it a few times to confirm my assumptions. Great post

[Bobalong]

Warwick Q2 1917 is not straightforward.
The marriages at each of the churches appear to be grouped, but it goes:
./Warwick All Saints/.../Kenilworth St James/.../Leamington Holy Trinity/./Leamington St Mary/..../Radford Semele/Rowington/Leamington St John/../Warwick St Mary/../Warwick St Paul.........

There are a lot of names at the end of the list (including Kate Bloxham & Frederick Godfrey) that I take to be the registry office marriages. They lived in the St John Parish before and after marriage and their children were baptised at St John's but maybe the fact it was a war year (I don't know if he served) made them marry at the registry office.
Incidentally I found Excel easier to order the page numbers, there are a couple of errors on each of the BMD pages I looked at and there are 2 marriages per page but one page seems to have 3 on it.

[Coromandel]

Warwick Q2 1917 is not straightforward.
The marriages at each of the churches appear to be grouped, but it goes:
./Warwick All Saints/.../Kenilworth St James/.../Leamington Holy Trinity/./Leamington St Mary/..../Radford Semele/Rowington/Leamington St John/../Warwick St Mary/../Warwick St Paul.........

Thank you for testing the system, Bobalong.

The only churches that seem to be out of alphabetical order in your list are Warwick All Saints and Leamington St John. Perhaps they are not listed in exactly that form in the GRO's books: for example, could Warwick All Saints be listed as Emscote All Saints?

[Coromandel]

The only churches that seem to be out of alphabetical order in your list are Warwick All Saints and Leamington St John.

Maybe indexed under 'S' for South Leamington Priors???

[Annamarie]

What a fascinating thread. I have so much to learn. Using the information I searched for a marriage 1872, 2nd quarter, vol. 6b, p161. I received a message indicating they could not find the church although they provided an approximate geographical location between entries for Burslem St Paul ( Wolstanton) and Edensor St Paul (Stoke upon Trent). Could this be because they were Methodists or does it indicate a civil marriage?
Thank you

[Coromandel]

Using the information I searched for a marriage 1872, 2nd quarter, vol. 6b, p161. I received a message indicating they could not find the church although they provided an approximate geographical location between entries for Burslem St Paul ( Wolstanton) and Edensor St Paul (Stoke upon Trent). Could this be because they were Methodists or does it indicate a civil marriage?

This area is covered by one of the local BMD sites so you will get a nice quick answer by going to:

http://www.
staffordshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

This tells you that Samuel Amos and Elizabeth Simcock married at Tunstall Christ Church
as did Thomas Ayre and Sarah Stanyer.

All four appear on FreeBMD with GRO ref. Wolstanton district, vol 6b, p.161.

(FreeBMD has a William Barnish on this page too, but I was suspicious about him from the start, as he isn't in bold like all the others, which means his details haven't been transcribed identically by two independent transcribers. Cross-checking on the Staffordshire BMDs site shows him as marrying Elizabeth Chesters, also at Tunstall Christ Church. They seem to belong together on p.164, not p.161.)

[Annamarie]

Thank you. In the BMD index I have used she has been transcribed as Simcox. My family line is Simcock, this helps tremendously.

Oh, and I hope I am not committing any transgression by posting on this thread?.

A lot to learn!

[Coromandel]

I hope I am not committing any transgression by posting on this thread?.

No, not at all. I'm glad to have been able to help you out.

[Bobalong]

The list I got off Genuki does not have Warwick as a parish (until 1921), it has St Mary and St Nicholas separately. This means it does not have St. Pauls or All saints on the list. It is a list of places, not necessarily a list of possible mariage places.
I assumed that Warwick churches do not have "Warwick" in front of them which would explain why All saints is near the top. However Emscote All saints may be a better call, as there is a wedding before the All saints ones and Ashow is the first Parish in the list under Warwick. Emscote does not appear on the list of parishes, indeed the website says it is a hamlet shared between 2 parishes, but if it did there would be 10 parishes before it. These are small, though, so most may not have had a wedding in that quarter.
So I think we can explain the Warwick side of things but not Leamington Priors St John. I did not buy the South Leamington argument but it does looks like it is something like that.
I did look for weddings in other areas to flesh out the list but they had no weddings in that quarter and I ran out of time.
Overall it seems to me that the system works but it (obviously) relies on getting hold of a good list of the possible places to get married in that registration district.
Thanks for the technique, Coromandel.