George Harradine

[Coromandel]

Judging by the index at BMD registers, that George seems likely to be the son of Edmund and Martha. He is aged 4 in 1841.

Yes, you're right Kerrywood: in fact I have now found the baptism on the IGI and shows him as son of Edmund and Martha, born and bapt. 1837.
Time for me to throw in the towel, I think.

[notanotherminer]

Mary 35 (now puts place of birth as Newham Herts),

She does indeed. My mistake

[notanotherminer]

It looks as if your William and William John are one and the same.

In 1891 William and his wife Denny were living with their family at Back Street Ashwell

RG12/1101/8/page 10 Crown Copyright YNA

In 1901 John William shown as widowed is living alone at Back Street, Ashwell

RG13/1292/10/11 Crown Copyright TNA

Denny died in 1896
Harradine Denny Dec qtr 1896 Royston vol 3a page 295

Edit: Now that we know George and Mary were definitely William's parents we need to find their marriage.

[notanotherminer]

FreeBMD show a marriage of George Harradine to a possible Mary Pateman

Harradine George Dec qtr 1843 Royston vol 6 page 967

Indexed on the same page is a Mary Pateman

[notanotherminer]

Family Search (through Hugh Wallis) shows the marriage of George Harradine to Mary Pateman on 26 Nov 1843 at Ashwell, Hertford

[notanotherminer]

I still can't find George's baptism but this looks like Mary's

Mary Pateman
Date: 30 Apr 1826
Place: Newnham, Hertford
Father: James Pateman
Mother: Mary
Source Film No. 1537840

[janbooth]

Perhaps the reason for not finding George's baptism with a father George is that he could be the following George:

From Ashwell Parish Register Transcripts:

Born 20 October 1821, baptised 27 July 1834 George HARRADINE son of Rebecca HARRADINE (single woman now married to John GENTLE).

1841 census of Ashwell:

HO107/446/1, folio 8, page 9
High Street

John GENTLE 60 Ag La
Rebecca do 35
George do 25
John do 15
Saml do 12
Frederick do 10
Alfred do 9
Frances do 7

All born in the county.

John GENTLE, widower, and Rebecca HARRADINE, spinster, married at Ashwell on 17 August 1822. John GENTLE was previously married to Elizabeth CRANE on 15 October 1794 at Ashwell. They had 2 children James & Mary and Elizabeth was buried on 25 November 1811 at Ashwell, so the George shown in the 1841 census was not the child of John GENTLE.

There is no other George HARRADINE born/baptised in Ashwell c1821 according to the PR Transcripts and I can find no George GENTLE corresponding to the one in the 1841 census baptised in Ashwell either, nor can I find a corresponding George GENTLE in the 1851 census. Both John & Rebecca GENTLE had died in Ashwell before the 1851 census.

Let me know what you think and if you require any further information from the PR Transcripts I am happy to oblige.

Janet

[Coromandel]

That explains George's elusiveness! Well done, Janet, a great find.

[notanotherminer]

That explains George's elusiveness! Well done, Janet, a great find.

A very good find. Whether his father really was someone named George will probably remain a mystery. I'm surprised that he didn't just keep the name Gentle though because he was only a year old when his mother married.