Amelia Cooksey born Bethnal Green in 1843?

[RobinC]

The list of documents seems to be fairly long so I think picking out the most suitable records is the best way as I haven't been given any selective records that may contain information on Amelia.

Amelia is my 3 x great grandmother so finding out her origins is fairly important to me in order to track her branch of the family tree back. I think my week off in April could be used up to take a trip to the LMA to see if I can have a look at the records.

Here's a few records which may help though:
1850 1854 Princes Road Workhouse: Creed Register X020/071 LABG/163/01
1843 1860 Princes Road Workhouse: Register of baptisms X020/086 LABG/165/03
1856 1928 Register of Apprentices LABG/187 LABG/187
1847 1872 Norwood Schools, Elder Road, West X020/087 LABG/199
Norwood: Old School Admission and Discharge Register

All of the other records are from 1860 onwards.

[RobinC]

I've also contacted the Magdalen Trust as suggested by the LMA to see if they have records or information regarding the A.C. who was on the 1861 census at London Road, Southwark.

[RobinC]

The Magdalen Trust have replied to my email and can't help me so I guess the identity of A.C. from the 1861 census is going to remain a mystery!

[RobinC]

Now is this a breakthrough? There are 2 burials in St Mary Lambeth parish on 11th September 1849:

1. George Cooksey of 1 Hope Place, age 34.
2. Elizabeth Cooksey of 1 Hope Place, age 1.

Amelia orphaned?

There’s also a Mary Cooksey of Bird Street, age 30. Buried St Mary Lambeth 30th November 1849 and James Cooksey of 16 Bird Street buried 1st April 1850, age ‘und[er?] 1’ – mother & brother to Amelia?

There seem to be are others in this area but I think this is enough for now.

The following tie in with those from Bird Street:

1841 at Bird Street, St Mary Lambeth, Lambeth Church 2nd

COOKSEY, Jane Female 51 1790
COOKSEY, Penelope Female 25 1816
COOKSEY, George Male 20 1821
COOKSEY, Henry Male 7 1834

1851 at 29 Bird Street, Lambeth

DYSON, John Head Married M 51 1800 Porter York, Yorkshire
DYSON, E Wife Married F 40 1811 Brighton, Sussex
DYSON, J G Son Unmarried M 12 1839 Errand Boy Lambeth, Surrey
DYSON, George Son M 5 1846 Scholar Lambeth, Surrey
DYSON, E Daughter F 0 (7 MOS) 1851 Lambeth, Surrey
COOKSEY, H Brother Unmarried M 17 1834 An Apprentice Lambeth, Surrey
COOKSEY, Penelope Sister Unmarried F 37 1814 Mangler Westmsr, Middlesex

Births:
Penelope 9 Mar 1814 at Westminster St Margaret (Soldier)

Elizabeth Tilley baptised 28 August 1825 at St Mary Lambeth, parents were Thomas & Mary, (wire weaver)

Marriages:
Elizabeth Cooksey married John Dyson in 1838 at Lambeth, pre 1837 certificate so no father's name or occupation but one of the witnesses was Jane Cooksey.

George Cooksey married Elizabeth Tilley in 1844 at Lambeth (living at Bird Street) and stated his father was Daniel Cooksey (deceased), occupation Brush maker.

Henry Cooksey married Eliza Thompson in 1856 at Lambeth and stated his father was Daniel Cooksey (deceased), occupation Soldier.

Deaths:
Jane Mar 1845 Lambeth

Penelope Mar 1871 Lambeth

[RobinC]

There are two marriages for a Daniel Cooksey:

1. Banns read out on 19th January 1775 at Shoreditch St Leonard, Hackney, spouse was Penelope Sutton

2. Banns read out on 21st April 1831 at St Ann Blackfriars, City of London, spouse was Jane Reynolds (widow)

Daniel from marriage number 2 was a bachelor so I believe they were father and son, this would also explain Daniel jnr's daughter being called Penelope.

[RobinC]

George & Elizabeth's children:

George Thomas Cooksey: 13 Jul 1845, George Cooksey, Elizabeth Cooksey, Lambeth St Mary, Lambeth
Married: Mary Ann Marston on 9 Sep 1866 at Lambeth St Philip

Emma Cooksey: 20 Jun 1847, George Cooksey, Elizabeth Cooksey, Lambeth St Mary, Lambeth
Burial: 28 Mar 1848, Lambeth St Mary, Lambeth

Elizabeth Cooksey: 8 Oct 1848, George Cooksey, Elizabeth Cooksey, Lambeth St Mary, Lambeth
Burial: 11 Sep 1849, Lambeth St Mary, Lambeth

James Cooksey: 26 Mar 1850, George Cooksey, Elizabeth Cooksey, Lambeth St Mary, Lambeth
Burial: 1 Apr 1850, Lambeth St Mary, Lambeth

[RobinC]

Going by my 3 previous posts, it could be that Amelia was the eldest daughter of George & Elizabeth and wasn't baptised, especially if she was born before their marriage in 1844.

However, George Thomas Cooksey is with his grandmother Mary Tilly on the 1851 census at 16 Bird Street, Lambeth.

Would he be too young to be sent to a workhouse school at the age of six years?

The other discrepancy is that George senior was a book binder not a blacksmith.

Alternatively on the 1851 & 1861 censuses, George Thomas is down as being born in Clerkenwell, Middlesex which isn't a million miles away from Bethnal Green.

I know this is all conjecture and that it might not come to anything but I could be a lot further along than I was when I started this thread.

[RobinC]

Malcolm99, was any of the above in line with your theory?

[malcolm99]

Malcolm99, was any of the above in line with your theory?

Hello Robin

I've sent you a PM.

[RobinC]

Have just revisited this part of my family tree and have taken another look at Amelia's marriage certificate from 1862 where Amelia signs her name rather than making her mark.

As mentioned in post #24 of this thread, I have found a mention of an A.C. on the 1861 census who was a penitent.

Would the owners of an institution, which someone attended as a penitent, have provided education as part of the rehabilitation process?

Or would adequate education be provided before girls were put into service?