A location in Lancashire

[Rove]

Would a person shown in 1901 Census as born in FORTON Lancs be registered in GARSTANG Lancs

and in 1891 Census be shown as born in PREESALL Lancs

Dont know this part of England. Anyone lives up there ?

Bill in Melbourne.

[carolchipp]

Would a person shown in 1901 Census as born in FORTON Lancs be registered in GARSTANG Lancs

Yes - I have ancestors born in Forton, registered born in Garstang. Preesall's a bit further away (about 10 miles, I think)
If everything else is right, it's probably the same person. Some of mine vary their place of birth.

Have a look on google map and if you google Forton Lancashire, there's quite a bit of info about its history

[olliecat]

Garstang, Preesall and Forton are all in the GARSTANG registration district

See the Garstang reg district page.

According to Genuki, Forton is 3.7 miles north of Garstang while Preesall is 7 miles west.

On Google maps, here is

• Garstang
  
• Forton
  
• Preesall

Haven't figured out how to provide a link so that all three place pins show on one map.

[RonOne]

On Google maps, here is

• Garstang
  
• Forton
  
• Preesall

Haven't figured out how to provide a link so that all three place pins show on one map.

Hi olliecat,

Chose the first location as normal.
Click 'Get Directions' and add the second placename.
For additional places click 'Add Destination' and add the third placename etc...
Finally use the 'Link' option as you have to post the above ones.

CLICK HERE

You may need to zoom out (or scroll) when using this method to see all of the place pins.

[olliecat]

Chose the first location as normal.
Click 'Get directions' and add the second placename.
For additional places click 'Add Destination' and add the third placename etc...
Finally use the 'Link' option as you have to post the above ones.

Marvellous Ron. My go - all three place pins

Sorry Rove. Will hijack your thread no longer.

[RonOne]

Try out the 'My Maps' link (next to 'Get Directions') - there's a video clip showing what you can do with it

I think you may need to have a google e-mail account and be signed in to use it. (I haven't tried it without signing in)

[olliecat]

Try out the 'My Maps' - there's a video clip showing what you can do with it

Thank you RonOne. I shall check it out, although I know whom to ask now if I have problems.

Would a person shown in 1901 Census as born in FORTON Lancs be registered in GARSTANG Lancs

and in 1891 Census be shown as born in PREESALL Lancs.

Rove, if you want, you could post the census refs for this individual, then forum members could take a look and give an opinion as to whether it is the same person.

[Rove]

From birth certificate of first child of George James Phillips and Eleanor Elizabeth Draper Dec qtr 1901
Tracing back Eleanor Elizabeth Draper
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Birth - March qtr 1873
Draper, Helen Elizabeth - Reg at Garstang Lancs (south of Forton)
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Shown below as Elenor Phillips wife of George - married June qtr 1897
1901 - Address: 21, Mill Road, Llandaff, Ely Glam
PHILLIPS, George Head Married 32 -- 1869 - Haulier at Brickworks - N K Somersetshire
PHILLIPS, Elenor Wife Married 28 -- 1873 - Forton - Lancashire -------
RG13/4970 folio 103 page 50

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Shown below as Helen E with parents in 1891 born Preesell Lancs
1891 - Address: Greenbank Farm, Higher Road, Dilworth, Longridge
DRAPER, Evan Head Married 53 1838 Farmer Middleton Lancashire
DRAPER, Elizabeth Wife Married 45 1846 Stalmine Lancashire
DRAPER, Margaret M Daur Single 22 1869 Preesall Lancashire
DRAPER, Helen E Daur Single 18 1873 Preesall Lancashire ---------
RG12/3446 folio 77 page 17

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Shown below as Ellen Elizabeth b Preesall Lancs - 1881
1881 Address: Parsonage Ribchester
DRAPER, Evan Head Married 43 1838 Farmer Of 170 Acres Employing 2 Labourer Middleton Lancashire
DRAPER, Elizabeth Wife Married 35 1846 Farmers Wife Stalmine Lancashire
DRAPER, Margrett M Daur 12 1869 Scholar Preesall Lancashire
DRAPER, Ellen Elizabeth Daur 8 1873 Scholar Preesall Lancashire ---------
DRAPER, John Son 10 1871 Scholar Preesall Lancashire
RG11/4245 folio 124 page 1

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(census records held by TNA, Crown copyright)

Thanks for replies

[olliecat]

Hi Rove, first I thought I would look at Helen Elizabeth Draper, daughter of Evan Draper, as you've shown in the 1881 and 1891 census you posted. I have my doubts that she married George Phillips. See this marriage below ...

Marriage: 24 Jun 1897 St Andrew, Longton, Lancashire, England
William Lund - 27 Carrier Bachelor of Tarleton
Helen Elizabeth Draper - 24 Spinster of Longton
Groom's Father: John Lund, Carrier
Bride's Father: Evan Draper, Publican
Witness: John Draper; Jane Lund
Married by Superintendent Registrar's Certificate by: John Johnson Incumbent
Register: Marriages 1838 - 1900, Page 100, Entry 200
Source: LDS Film 1278777
(Lancashire OPC)

Note: in 1901 father Evan refers to himself as a farmer and publican and he is living in Longton
1901: RG13 Piece: 3942 Folio: 81 Page: 19 (crown copyright, care of the TNA)

You will find Helen E Lund and her husband William in the census below. Helen states she was born abt 1873 in Preesall.

1901: RG13 Piece: 3541 Folio: 46 Page: 1 (crown copyright, care of the TNA)
1911: RG14/22929 / SN100 (crown copyright, care of the TNA)

[olliecat]

Here is her christening...

Baptisms: 16 Mar 1873 St James, Stalmine, Lancashire, England
Helen Elizabeth Draper - Child of Evan Draper & Elizabeth
Born: 6 Feb 1873
Abode: Preesall
Occupation: Farmer
(from the Lancashire OPC)