only clue born 1821 Eling on 1841 Census

[dadsfamily]

Hi thanks for replying. I don't have his marriage certificate

I did search for George Taylor and Jane Fryer but I was searching before 1847 (before birth of John Taylor) which was the date of birth shown on the 1961 Census. I did find a record for Jan - Mar 1856 Hampshire with a Taylor / Fryer.
however am unable to find George on the 1851 Census.

[dadsfamily]

Oh, thanks Lizzy. You're good. So he was married before. This gives me something to work from. Thanks so very much!

Mary

[Lizzy9]

George Taylor and Jane Fryer married in Southampton, Mar qrt 1856, 2c/40. (GRO ref)

From Family Search...

George Taylor, father Isaac, married Jane Fryer, father William, 23/3/1856, Southampton

[dadsfamily]

Hi, searching for that via BMD I did find a marriage record that indicated a spouses wife not available unitil 1912 then Marriage Finder gave a few possible names. The only Sarah out of 6 names was Sarah Hatcher. I can try and dig further on that, but can you tell me why they won't show a spouse until 1912 please.

[notanotherminer]

I can try and dig further on that, but can you tell me why they won't show a spouse until 1912 please.

The rules which govern the amount of information contained in the GRO indexes changed for the better over the years. The answer to your question is simply that there was no requirement to enter a spouse's name until 1912.

Similarly, the mother's maiden name was not recorded on the birth indexes until July 1911 and onwards so for that year you will find the maiden name shown in the indexes for the September and December quarters only and for every year from then on.

The way to find a spouse's name prior to that time is to locate the marriage record and then click under the page No. shown in blue. This will take you to another page which shows all the people who married in that quarter and shared the same volume and page number in the index. One of those people will be the spouse of the person whose marriage you looked up.

The way to search is relatively easy. If you find a Joe Bloggs in the census with a wife Margaret work out from their ages and the birth years of their children when they are likely to have married. Enter Joe Bloggs in the search box on FreeBMD, put Margaret in the space for first name of spouse and put in the dates to search. If everyone was born in say Kent then highlight Kent and search.

The search engine will look for all entries where there is a marriage for Joe Bloggs with a Margaret on the same page. It will not show who these Margarets are in your results. This is where you need to click under the blue page number.

Try searching for a couple of the marriages you already have and just play around with it. You'll soon get the hang of it

[olliecat]

Hi, searching for that via BMD I did find a marriage record that indicated a spouses wife not available unitil 1912 then Marriage Finder gave a few possible names. The only Sarah out of 6 names was Sarah Hatcher. I can try and dig further on that, but can you tell me why they won't show a spouse until 1912 please.

One problem with finding George's first marriage on FreeBMD is that there is an error in the vol/page number. So George and Sarah are not being listed together under the same marriage.

Marriages Dec 1842
TAYLOR George New Forest 8 381
HATCHER Sarah N Forest 8 321

Looking at the image the vol/page number for George Taylor should be 8 321.

There is a good possibility that George's first wife was Sarah Hatcher. If you look at the 1851 census, the first two children were born in the Isle of Wight.

dadfamily if you check the Isle of Wight birth indexes, you will see these births ...

1846 TAYLOR John HEATH Ryde R7/P55
1847 TAYLOR John HATCHER Cowes C5/P46
1847 TAYLOR John BUTCHER Ryde R7/P82

1848 TAYLOR Eliza HATCHER Cowes C6/P27
1849 TAYLOR Elizabeth GROVES Calbourne Ca4/P77
1850 TAYLOR Elizabeth STALLARD Ryde R10/P11
1850 TAYLOR Elizabeth Maria DYER Ryde R10/P2

The Isle of Wight indexes include an "other surnames" field, which is usually the mother's maiden name. The other surname that shows up for both children is Hatcher.

[dadsfamily]

Thanks for the explanation and I will do that! I've learned more in a couple of days from this site than I ever thought possible. Happy Valentines Day to one and all!

[anamarja]

Just checked the IWFHS births index - in addition to John (birth 1847) (C5 p.46) and Eliza (birth 1848) (C6, p. 27) there was Charles, born 1845, (C4 p. 67) all born to a Taylor/Hatcher couple, all registered in the Cowes district.

[dadsfamily]

Just checked the IWFHS births index - in addition to John (birth 1847) (C5 p.46) and Eliza (birth 1848) (C6, p. 27) there was Charles, born 1845, (C4 p. 67) all born to a Taylor/Hatcher couple, all registered in the Cowes district.

Thanks I do appreciate any and all help.