Emily Meaden - where is she from?

[meaden]

Hi Everyone,
Emily Meaden is my GGGrandmother but she is a mystery woman!
In 1850, she and her husband Henry Butler, had a son, Henry Meaden Butler in Melbourne, Victoria Australia. I have a lot of information about the Henry Meaden Butler family but nothing about his parents. They are listed on his death certificate by name only.

I can only find one Emily Meaden in England - 1841 census - Dorset. About the right age if she had her son about the age 20 down in Oz.

But no record of where, when she married or travelled to Australia.

This is my personal family history quest as Meaden is my middle name and it is the one name that I haven't been able to find anything about! So frustrating for such an unusual name.
Hoping someone can assist.
Cheerio, Julie

[Nicolina]

what makes you think that Emily came from England? Couldn't she have been born in OZ? Have you found her marriage? If so what does that say? I think you need to investigate Emily & Henry in Oz first. (unless you know something you're not telling us)

[Procat]

if you get the birth certificate it should tell you when and where the couple married.

[Procat]

Hm, unable to find a birth for Henry Meaden Butler in Victoria or anything similar.

I note that in a tree in Ancestry he married a Virginia Howell on 11 April 1876 in Ararat - but this event is not in the indexes either.

[meaden]

Hi,
Thanks for the advice but yes I have tried to find them in Oz to no avail. I worked out the birth year of Henry Meaden Butler from his death certificate.
So yes, I am stumped. I have looked for her in the states of Australia that have easy online index access.

Any other ideas?
Cheerio,
Julie

[Procat]

Tricky indeed.

There are these Victorian births which are interesting:

Name: BUTLER, Walter Madden
Father: Henry Madden BUTLER
Mother: Eliza WILLIAMS
Birth Place: MELB
Year: 1860
Reg Number: 6471

Name: BUTLER, Edwin Meaden
Father: Henry Meaden BUTLER
Mother: Eliza WILLIAMS
Birth Place: MELB
Year: 1865
Reg Number: 3662

I wonder if it would be worth getting a certificate to see if your Henry is an earlier sibling? The second birth is definitely Edwin Meaden Butler as he appears in Victorian electoral rolls at a later point in time.

[Nicolina]

from the birth entries found by Procat it appears as though you need to try searching for Eliza instead of Emily. There are 6 on the 1841 UK Census born between 1811 and 1839. Have you tried searching for her death which ought to give a clue as to when she was born? Meaden is not a particularly common surname.

[Dorset Girl]

There are a family of Meadens living in Hamworthy in 1841 - including an Ellen and an Eliza -
; ; William MEADEN; m; 40; Jour Ship Wright; Yes; F6-6
; ; Sarah MEADEN; f; 35; ; Yes; F6-6
; ; Lavina MEADEN; f; 10; ; Yes; F6-6
/; ; Matilda MEADEN; f; 5; ; Yes; F6-6
//; ; Elizabeth PITMAN; f; 20; ; Yes; F6-6
//; ; Edward PAINE; m; 10; ; No; F6-6
; ; Robert MEADEN; m; 25; Ship Wright; Yes; F6-6
; ; Martha MEADEN; f; 25; ; Yes; F6-6
; ; Ellen MEADEN; f; 5; ; Yes; F6-6
; ; Geo MEADEN; m; 4; ; Yes; F6-6
; ; Eliza MEADEN; f; 2; ; Yes; F6-6
/; ; Charles MEADEN; m; 5m; ; Yes; F6-6
//; ; Charles MEADEN; m; 30; Ship Wright; Yes; F6-6

Don't know if this is of any help. Where did you find your Emily Meaden in the 1841 census?

[meaden]

Hi Dorset Girl,
I am starting to look sideways at this problem so thanks for this additional strategy but in the meantime....
Here is the one I found AGES ago:
1841 England Census 1841 England Census
Name: Emily Meaden
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Gender: Female
Where born: Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Melcombe Regis
Hundred: Weymouth and Melcombe Regis
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Weymouth
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Meaden 40
Jane Meaden 40
Chas Meaden 15
Elizab Meaden 15
Emily Meaden 10
Jane Meaden 10
Wm Meaden 8
Richd Meaden 5
Henry Meaden 2

Hope you are having some cooler wet weather coming your way over there.
Julie

[susan-y]

Richard and Jane along with their 3 youngest sons appear on the 1851 census still in Dorset.

Sue