Eliza Jackson 1834 Stapleford Cheshire.

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Have you seen the FreeBMD entry for reg'd death of Eliza Threadgold in Northwich Dec. 1858? about 15 miles from Foulk Stapleford via Google maps.

Or there is a marriage for an Eliza Threadgold in Macclesfield 1860 a bit further afield

decided just to double check this death , best be sure, this Eliza was buried 4 Oct 1858 aged 22.

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Just revisiting this post..still trying to find out what Eliza's fate was..
Eliza had the last child at the workhouse in 1858, I know all 4 children were still at the workhouse in 1861, 2 still there is 1871, so Eliza seems to have left them there.Eliza was still very young at this stage only abt 27 in 1861.You would asssume if still alive she would have had more children or married even, but have checked marriages and never found any that seem to fit her..and if she married would she not have taken the children out of the workhouse? Of course she could simply have lived in a defacto relationship and taken another surname??
QUESTION:
Could a mother just leave 4 children in a workhouse and walk away? Was that allowed??

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Just revisiting this post..still trying to find out what Eliza's fate was..
Eliza had the last child at the workhouse in 1858, I know all 4 children were still at the workhouse in 1861, 2 still there is 1871, so Eliza seems to have left them there.Eliza was still very young at this stage only abt 27 in 1861.You would asssume if still alive she would have had more children or married even, but have checked marriages and never found any that seem to fit her..and if she married would she not have taken the children out of the workhouse? Of course she could simply have lived in a defacto relationship and taken another surname??
QUESTION:
Could a mother just leave 4 children in a workhouse and walk away? Was that allowed??

Just bumping this thread back up the boards in case anybody can find any new info..still searching for her.
I have checked every sibling through their marriage and census to check she is not with them...

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Who is the William JACKSON desc as grandson, living with James & Ann THREADGOLD as recorded on the 1851 census H107 2171 262 12

Is his mother Frances?

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Hi geneius, I thought the same but looking at baptism records he appears to be the son of Frances brother Thomas and his wife Mary..Thomas has another son William noted on 1861 census brn 1857 so assume the first William is deceased. cant find a burial record and there are numerous deaths on freebmd with no ages unfortunately..I can tell you he is def not William son of Eliza as I have Elizas Williams birth certificate ( my G Grandfather)

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Looked at the Parish Registers on line for Tarvin, the entry reads

bp 7 December 1834 Eliza parent Ann JACKSON spinster Stapleford

The word spinster puzzles me as you suggest she is the widow of William JACKSON...?

There is another Eliza JACKSON d/o James & Hannah b 27/02/1834 presumably you have discounted her as she appears to marry Samuel DODD in June 1857

Jx

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Looked at the Parish Registers on line for Tarvin, the entry reads

bp 7 December 1834 Eliza parent Ann JACKSON spinster Stapleford

The word spinster puzzles me as you suggest she is the widow of William JACKSON...?

There is another Eliza JACKSON d/o James & Hannah b 27/02/1834 presumably you have discounted her as she appears to marry Samuel DODD in June 1857

Jx

Yes looked at the Eliza who married Samuel Dood and discounted her .This Eliza is cousin to my Eliza,.she is the daughter of Hannah and James Jackson(James is William Jacksons brother) brn around the same time as my Eliza, she married before my Eliza had her last child Ann in 1858, I have Ann birth cert..no father named.
Ann described as spinster..I am assuming this is because Eliza was not the daughter of William, Elizas birth was between the death of William and Anns remarriage to James Threadgold..Eliza can be found living with Ann and James Threadgold in 1841 listed as Eliza Threadgold.Tarvin..HO107; Piece: 90 Folio: 6; Page: 11
Ann Jackson was widowed in 1832, she already had 4 children to William Jackson, William was buried in Tarvin in April 1832 aged 30, Eliza was baptised December 1834 Tarvin, some 2yrs and 8 mths after Williams death, and 5 yrs prior to her marriage to James Threadgold in Oct 1839. This leads to the conclusion that Eliza was born to Ann and unknown father. Census for Eliza confirm her birth of abt 1834.
As Eliza used her Jackson surname I would imagine that her mother Ann would have let her believe she was the daughter of her first husband William so if she married I would expect to find William named on any marriage certificate.,

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Interesting about Eliza Jackson / Dodd, I follow the Dodd family from Wybunbury ( Nr Nantwich) and have this family but not sure where they fit in to my tree!

SPinster is entered in the colum of Trade / profession, there is another mother only on the page she has a line in this entry, but turning the page shows other spinsters having their children baptised, the Curate seems to qualify the children as 'natural born'!

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Interesting about Eliza Jackson / Dodd, I follow the Dodd family from Wybunbury ( Nr Nantwich) and have this family but not sure where they fit in to my tree!

SPinster is entered in the colum of Trade / profession, there is another mother only on the page she has a line in this entry, but turning the page shows other spinsters having their children baptised, the Curate seems to qualify the children as 'natural born'!

That is interesting re Eliza jackson/Dodd, maybe we are marriage related at some point.
I cant explain why Ann is described as spinster..I just put it down to Eliza not being Williams daughter.